Reels for slow pitch jigging

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Basically you need an overhead reel that retrieves about 75cm per crank or more at the depth where you are fishing. Say, you have the reel with 85cm max retrieve per crank. That is the speed when line is fully loaded. When you let out 100m of line, the speed may be down to 75cm per crank.
Plus, you would like the handle arm to be long as 85cm.

Slow pitch jigging utilizes 1 turn pitch, as well as 1/2, 1/4, and 1/8 turn pitch. It depends on the depth of your field but at least 80cm max retrieve length, if possible 90cm or more. You can always make your pitch smaller, but you can’t make the pitch bigger than 1 turn.

When we give a pitch, we normally accelerate the reel turn. It’s easier with a longer handle, longer than 80mm. Long handle also creates more power to help you with the heavy jig, the deep water, and fighting with a big fish.

Ocea Jigger by Shimano

Shimano Ocea Jigger#1 popular reel for slow pitch jiggers. It’s got the speed and the power, fine balanced to perfection with Shimano’s X-Ship technology. Also, it’s got silky smooth drag.

1500PG is a bit too short of the speed. 1500HG is better for slow pitch jigging. It’s perfect for light games. But the handle length of 70cm is just too short for jigging. You would want to change it to longer handle.
2000NR-PG seems to have enough speed. But 2000 series have narrow spool, which means it loses its speed quickly when you go deep. The most popular model is 2000NR-HG. The speed is outstanding and it’s also got enough power to help you jigging in the deep. The reeling is light and powerful instead of the gear ratio of 6.2.

Model Gear Ratio Max Speed Handle Length Price
1500PG 5.1 78cm 70cm JPY47,000
1500HG 6.3 97cm 70cm JPY47,000
2000NR-PG 5.1 96cm 85cm JPY52,000
2000NR-HG 6.2 117cm 85cm JPY52,000

product1_sShimano is releasing Ocea Jigger Limited in 2014. The key feature is the reverse drag. It loosens when you turn it forward and tightens when you turn it backward. In slow pitch game, we set the drag as tight as possible. And when we can’t stop, we set it free to let the fish swim to prevent the line from friction to the bottom edge. Shimano figured you can loosen the drag faster when you turn it forward. Also, 1500 series have longer handle of 85mm finally. 1500 series have round knob, and 3000 series have t-bar handle as in the photo.

Apparently, Shimano is finally changing its direction more toward slow pitch jigging. This is their test marketing for the future models.

Blue Heaven L50 by Studio Ocean Mark

somblueheavenFor some, this is the best jigging reel on the market. SOM have really refined this little monster reel. The speed, the power and the controllability meet all the needs that slow pitch jiggers would look for.

In 2013, they released the special model for slow pitch jigging, L50Hi S2T (picture below). In spite of the high pricing, JPY135,000, it was sold out right away. Along with better reeling power and the stronger body, they refined its sensitivity to perfection with high carbon materials.

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Following the success of the slow pitch model, as of April 2014, it is speculated that they are remodeling the current model for better drag system and sensitivity and it’s to be released sometime after June 2014.

Model Gear Ratio Max Speed Handle Length Price
L50Hi 6.3 110cm 95cm JPY85,000

More details on Blue Heaven →

Jigger LD by Shimano

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A very unique model with 2-way speed and a lever drag. You make actions in high gear, and switch to low gear when you hook a big fish. Only problem is that the normal handle is too short for the capacity of this reel.

Model 2000
Gear Ratio 6.2 / 4.1
Max Speed 96cm / 64cm
Handle Length 70cm
Price JPY50,000
Ocea Calcutta by Shimano

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A good solid model for light jigging in the shallow water. A longer handle is desired.

Model 300HG
Gear Ratio 6.0
Max Speed 81cm
Handle Length 70cm
Price JPY39,000
Catalina LD by Daiwa
A new jigging reel with lever drag and a long handle by Daiwa. The gear ratio is a little high compared to other products.

Model 20SH
Gear Ratio 7.3
Max Speed 116cm
Handle Length 85cm / 95cm
Price JPY41,500

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  1. Kelvin Chan
    Kelvin Chan05-07-2014

    Hi , thank you for such a wonderful write up. First of all I am very new to slow jigging. As compare to the reels above, which accurate reels are good for slow jigging? And what are your comments on accurate reels for slow jigging.

    Best regards
    Kelvin

    • Totos
      Totos05-07-2014

      Hi Kelvin
      Thank you very much for your interest in slow pitch jigging.
      Can you tell me the model of your accurate reel?

      • Kelvin Chan
        Kelvin Chan05-08-2014

        I ‘ve got a Boss 870 and a BX600 2 speed.

        • Totos
          Totos05-08-2014

          Accurate Reel just had a official dealer in Japan last year. There’s only few feedbacks from the jiggers but I think they will do better. I’m curious about the reel too. I know Accurate has been around for a long time for big games. The Twin Drag feature seems very interesting.

          There are some variations of BX600 series. The spec seems like this.
          A: 600 with 4:1 gear ratio has the speed of 83cm per crank.
          B: 600 with 5:1 gear ratio has the speed of 91cm per crank.
          C: 600 with 6:1 gear ratio has the speed of 120cm per crank.

          A should be good for shallow water. B and C are recommended for slow pitch jigging.

  2. kelvin chan
    kelvin chan05-08-2014

    Thanks for the info totos… Now will be doing research on the rods. And tomorrow I will be trying shore casting on light weight Damiki backdrop jigs

  3. hani maher
    hani maher06-23-2014

    Hi Totos,
    what about saltiga Z20 for slow pitch jigging ?
    5.4 gear ratio and 10kg of drag .
    and which is better 1500 hg or 1500 hg limited
    many thanks

    • Totos
      Totos06-25-2014

      Hi Hani. Yes, Daiwa Saltiga Z20… It’s got the speed of 90cm retrieve per crank. Efficient for slow pitch jigging. But the line capacity of only 300m of PE1.5. I would use it only for shallow water light game.
      In case you haven’t got Saltiga Z20 and you are comparing with OJ1500, I would definitely recommend OJ1500 over Saltiga Z20. Ocea Jigger has the convenient functions like spool lock and super free spool, which are very useful in slow pitch jigging.
      OJ 1500HG Limited is longer handle and reverse drag. Reverse drag feature is liked as much as unliked by anglers, but 85mm handle is definitely an advantage. But OJ1500HG is almost sold out of the market.

      • John Q
        John Q12-15-2016

        The line capacity for saltiga z 20 is pe3 300m and pe2 400m maybe at pe 1.5 would load 500 to 600m not pe 1.5 300m

  4. Don
    Don08-08-2014

    Hi,

    What about Ryoga Bay Jigging 2025PE-SH? For light shallower water jigging with PE 1.5 line

    Thanks!

    • Totos
      Totos08-17-2014

      Hi Don.
      2025PE-SH has the speed of 87cm per crank and the power of 7.4 gear ratio.
      It’s OK. It’s compatible to slow pitch jigging.
      But compare it with OJ2000HG. The speed of 117cm per crank and the power of 6.2 gear ratio. OJ is much faster and much powerful. It means OJ can move the jig in tougher conditions (= faster), and can move a heavy jig with more ease (= more powerful). Along with other features and quality, Ocea Jigger is rated much better reel for jigging.
      If you have a choice, grab a Shimano.

      • Haidi
        Haidi03-14-2016

        Totos
        For reel Daiwa Ryoga 2025PE-SH which suitable rod to match this reel?

        • Totos
          Totos03-23-2016

          Hi Haidi.
          The rod is not to be decided in a match with reel.

          The rod model selection depends mainly on the following factors.
          – What is your main depth range? If you narrow it to a 30 meter range, what would that be?
          – How is your boat operating while fishing? Free-drifting? Drifting with sea-anchor? Or controlled drift by the captain?
          – What are your main targets? Pelagic fish? Demersal fish? Or both?

          • Norhaidi Mohamef
            Norhaidi Mohamef03-23-2016

            Woùld like to know…
            How many gram jig required and what the series no of reel (exp.2000. 3000, 4000, 5000) below rod
            1.PE 0.8 – 2.0
            2 PE 1-3
            3.PE 2-5

            Please advise..

            Thanks and regards

            Haidi

          • Jerome
            Jerome12-07-2016

            Hi what do you think about the Shimano Torium 16 for light slow jigging?

  5. Remote16
    Remote1608-14-2014

    HI Totos,

    Nice write up. Really help me a lot on slow jig.
    Got a question here, intend to buy a OJ1500HG. However there is no more stock near any of my area. Would a OJ1500PG work fine?

    • Totos
      Totos08-17-2014

      Hi Remote 16.
      It depends on your field.
      If you are fishing mainly at 50m or shallower, OJ1500PG has sufficient spec, the speed of 78cm and the power of 5.1 gear ratio. But if you fish deeper than that, i recommend to get OJ2000NR-HG. Or OJ2000NR-PG is still good if 100m is your maximum depth.

      • Remote16
        Remote1608-19-2014

        Hi Totos,

        Thanks for your reply. Last questions here, how about Jigging Master PE 2? I am unable to find the line retrieve info online even after much seach.. Would you recommend this reel?

        • Totos
          Totos08-21-2014

          Hi Remote 16.
          JIgging Master is a taiwan company, not competing in Japan market. I really don’t know. If you want to be sure, you should ask them about the speed.

  6. TonyfromAU
    TonyfromAU09-03-2014

    Hi Toto
    Love your site, you have so much good information here.

    How does the Ocea 2000NR-HG compare to the 2014 limited Ocea Jigger in 3000 HG size.
    Is it much bigger? Would you still recommend the 2000NR-HG?
    I am not sure which to get, they didn’t release the limited ocea jigger in 2000 size. 🙁

    Thanks Looking forward to your reply.

    • Totos
      Totos09-03-2014

      Hi Tony.
      Here’s my report on FB.
      https://www.facebook.com/JapaneseAnglersSecrets/posts/588539894567199

      Only thing about the limited model is whether or not you can get used to the reverse drag.
      Most slow pitch jiggers have the tightest drag set possible to start with. When you hook a fish and decide that you can’t stop it, you free the drag to let it out. And then about the time the fish swims away horizontally, you bring the fight back on. It’s much easier fight than when the fish going vertically down. It’s the decision and action in an instant. If you tighten the drag by mistake, that will be the end.

  7. Paul
    Paul09-09-2014

    Hi,

    What do you think of the Daiwa lexa 300 HSLP or the Alutecnos Gorilla 6V ?

    • Totos
      Totos09-11-2014

      Hi Paul.
      This Daiwa reel is no good for any jigging, I think.
      If you are keen to Gorilla 6V, find out the speed if it’s got at least 85cm per crank. It doesn’t sell in Japan and I don’t know. But it seems it’s quite expensive. If I’m not mistaken, it’s more than $600? I would rather buy OJ2000NR-HG with no hesitation.

      • jcool3
        jcool309-20-2014

        I am curious why you think daiwa lexa 300 is no good for jigging. it has 32 in line retrieve 7.1 gear ratio, power handle and 22 lbs. drag and readily available in U.S.. It’s line capacity 240 yds 40 lb braid.
        there is also lexa 400. It has 38 in line retrieve, 25 lbs drag, and line capacity of 300 yd 55lb. braid. Fish in the U.S. colder waters not as powerful as in warmer tropics. Not as much stress on the reel.

        • Totos
          Totos09-20-2014

          Hi Jcool3.
          Let me rephrase myself. I would not recommend it if you are thinking of a reel to buy to start slow pitch.
          Slow pitch utilizes 1/2, 1/4, and 1/8 cranks to dance a 200g jig in 100m deep for example. You would want, not only the speed, the power and the handle length. Knowing other jigging reels, I would probably feel frustrated with making actions with this reel, and very worried in case for hooking a strong runners like amberjack and yellowtail.

          • Kevin
            Kevin01-24-2016

            I’ver personally gotten all of my California Yellowtail on a Lexa 400 on the yoyo jig up to 28lbs. A 100lb bluefin was caught on one in socal in 2015. What are you worried about?

            • Totos
              Totos01-27-2016

              That is awesome. You catch such big fish with this reel.

              But let’s leave out the fighting the fish part for now. I know I was the one who brought it up. It’s my bad. But the weight of your catch involves a lot of other factors other than the reel power, since it also depends on what kind fish it is, how heavy the line and how much you have, how skilled the angler is, and also that the boat can follow up the angler.

              I don’t know this reel. I just see the spec. And I do know some similar reel of this kind from Daiwa Japan. I can’t be sure about everything out of the specs.

              I am pretty sure you will know this reel is not made for slow pitch jigging once you actually do it. But you need to make this decision before you start. So I’m trying to make as much sense as I can. If I’m not good enough, you just need to find it out yourself.

              The gear ratio is 7.1. One handle turn cranks the spool 7.1 times. And the retrieve length is 32 inch or 81cm per crank, which is OK for slow pitch jigging.

              Ocea Jigger 1500HG, for example, is 6.3 gear ratio. High gear ratio means you lose power and gain speed. Lexe has less power. Lexe sacrifices its power by high gear ratio for speed, but the fact is that its speed is not that much. Ocea Jigger 1500HG has 96cm per crank. Much more than Lexe. It means that Ocea Jigger has more cranking power, and more speed (retrive length per crank).

              Plus the handle of Lexe is too short. It is designed for steady retrieve. Not for powerful and rhythmical crank of slow pitch jigging.

              However, if you already own Lexe, you should go ahead and start slow pitch jigging with it. Because there’s so much to it than mere reel specs. But if you are buying a reel, for slow pitch jigging, I don’t recommend it. That was what I meant.

          • Cihan
            Cihan01-25-2016

            Hello,

            LEXA-HD400XSL-P, Could you tell your valuable opinion for that new reel?

            Thank you so much mate.

            • Totos
              Totos01-27-2016

              Please see my previous comment. Thank you.

  8. Paul
    Paul09-12-2014

    Hi Totos,

    Thanks for your reply. First of all, my apology for my terrible english. In France we only speak french 😉

    Yep the Gorilla 6V is very expensive, almost 700 US Dollars. The ratio is 6.2.1:1, but I can’t find the retrieve…

    I’m in Reunion Island (french dependency / Indian Ocean) and we can’t find any good rod or reel here ! I plan to buy the Tenryu Horizon SL HSL66B-M, follow your advice and pair it with OJ2000NR-HG. Do you know a good online japan fishing shop that ship worlwilde ?

    Love your blog ! Keep up the good work !

    • Totos
      Totos09-16-2014

      Hi Paul.
      No apologies. My English is broken just as bad. At least we can communicate!
      Yea, OJ2000 is the most popular reel for slow pitch jiggers. It’s a sure thing.
      I can help you shop and ship your order to you with 10% handling fee. But sending 1-piece rod is pretty costy. But you can send 3 rods for the same price. Better get your friends involved if you can.
      Send me your info through Contact form.
      Talk to you later.
      Totos

  9. Edward Wen
    Edward Wen10-10-2014

    If I am going to do slow pitch jigging and fast pitch jigging do you think the Shimano Ocea jigger 2000 NR-HG or Shimano Ocea jigger NR-PG will be better suited?

    • Totos
      Totos10-11-2014

      Hi Edward.
      Without doubt, OJ2000NR-HG. It’s a high gear model but the power and the smoothness are amazing. I can high pitch a 260g jig with it. I can long fall a 500g jig with it. I can do 200m deep with it. No question.

  10. Newton
    Newton10-18-2014

    Hello sir,

    First of all, Congratulations for your wonderful website. Slow jigging is kind of new here in Brazil, at least to me.

    Would you recommend any spinning reel? The fishing spots are not so deep, I would say between 35 and 80 meters.

    Thank you.

    • Totos
      Totos10-23-2014

      Hi Newton. Thank you very much for your compliment.

      Here’s why overhead reel.
      http://www.anglers-secrets.com/what-is-slow-pitch-jigging/
      If you insist on starting with a spinning, you may as well try. You can be creative.

      But if you are buying one, I strongly recommend to get one overhead tackle. Once you learn the technique, you can be creative. But it is best you build the foundation first. With spinning tackle, I’m pretty sure you’ll be doing hi-speed jigging before you know it.

      It will be like asking what driver to buy when you are learning how to pat on the green.

  11. Ediz Dulger
    Ediz Dulger12-05-2014

    Hello from Turkey,

    Just starting slow jigging in these days. The only problem is to find the right material in the market. Anyway , For jigging ,I feel more comfortable with spin type reels ,can you raccomend a spin type reel for slow pitch? I have Stella 5000 sw xg. Would be ok to start ? Saw that Poseidon rod is available in spin type reels right ? Thank you ..

    • Totos
      Totos12-06-2014

      Hi Ediz.
      Slow Pitch Jigging is done by overhead tackle for a number of reasons.
      http://www.anglers-secrets.com/what-is-slow-pitch-jigging/#

      But it does not mean that you can’t do slow pitch with a spinning tackle. In fact, there are a lot among slow pitch principles that you can apply universally to any vertical games. Whatever tackle you use, if the jig moves in a way that fish likes, you’ll get contacts.

      But I still do recommend to get an overhead tackle for slow pitch to start. Because this is the way you will learn the most about this technique. Once you learn, the variations can be done easily.

      Now you are trying to start with a spinning tackle. I do not recommend to buy a new spinning reel for it. You have Stella 5000XG. One of the best spinning reels in the world. Start with that and see if you can keep exploring.

      Poseidon Spin Jerker was produced by Sato Sensei before you established slow pitch jigging. It’s a good rod. But this is not a “slow pitch rod” for a spinning reel.

      Good luck.
      Totos

  12. Ahmed Ganainy
    Ahmed Ganainy12-15-2014

    Hi Boss.
    still confused what do your recommend with evergreen slow jerker-603-3…..ocea jigger limited 1500hg or ocea jigger 2000NR-HG.? which model is considered better limitted 1500 or 2000nr-hg..i can’t consider 3000hg as it is very wide spool.

    • Totos
      Totos12-15-2014

      Hi Ahmed.
      OJ1500 Limited or OJ2000NR-HG. Hmmm. It’s a frequent question.
      One consideration is the power. The reel works on the jig weight and the water influence. The water influence is the depth and the current. For one example, if you fish with 200g+ jig in 100m+ mostly, OJ2000 would be better. But the water influence is hard to scale, so it’s hard to say.
      The other consideration is the speed. If in you’re in a situation where you get a lot of line slack in the water, you would like to have 117cm retrieve per crank of OJ2000NR-HG. You get a lot of line slack like when you are fishing in the deep and when you fishing on the free-drifting boat without sea-anchor.

      But if you don’t give a damn to what I’m bubbling about here, OJ1500 when you are fishing shallower than 80m mostly, OJ2000 when deeper mostly.

  13. Athhar
    Athhar12-16-2014

    Hi Totos,
    I really like this website, and what you have done for the slow pitch jigging fans out there. those new and old!
    Me and my some of my friends have been jigging for about 3 years now. And we’re looking into changing our gear a bit. Hopefully gonna buy some major craft crostage slow pitch rods soon. And what i would like to know is, what is your recommendation on the Avet JX for slow pitch jigging.

    Thanks

    • Totos
      Totos12-17-2014

      Hi Athhar.
      Thank you very much for your compliments.
      Unfortunately I don’t know about the reels that are not in Japan market.
      Find out how much this reel retrieves per crank. You would want approx. 75cm speed “at the depth” you are fishing. If you are fishing in the shallow, you want the max of 83cm or so. If you are fishing in 100m or deeper, you would want 90cm or more.
      That is the only requirement which is particular to slow pitch jigging. Other quality can be ignored or substituted.
      Good luck.

  14. Athhar
    Athhar12-17-2014

    Hi Totos,
    Thanks for the quick reply.
    The Avet JX that i’m looking into has a gear ratio of 4.6:1 with a handle length of 3 inches and a retrieve speed of about 36 inches, which is about 91cm. So that means it would definitely have the cranking power and a good line retrieve even to jig deeper than 100m. We usually jig starting from about 40m and sometimes go upto 200m here in Maldives.
    I’m currently using an Avet MXL 5.8 which is the youger brother of the JX, and since it’s not a jigging model i find the spool width a bit wide, plus the drag is a bit low too. And line managing tends to get in the way of my jigging sometimes.
    I used a spinning reel before i got the MXL. And i have to say conventional reels are the best for jigging! It gives a much better connection and control to the jig compared to a spinning.
    Thanks again. Cheers and happy jigging!

    • Totos
      Totos12-17-2014

      Hi Athhar.
      It sounds like the reel has enough specs.
      If you like overhead better, it means you are listening and pay attention to what the line got to say. You’ll enjoy this game bro!

  15. Athhar
    Athhar12-17-2014

    Hi Totos,
    Yeah the specs sure says so! I still can’t make up my mind though. Still looking for a light weight reel that has the drag capabilities and would hold about say 500yds of 50lb braid.
    But thanks a lot for the information you’ve given. Will let you know when i decide on one. hehe!
    When we started jigging here, we only knew about 2 or 3 guys who were jigging at that time. And they all were into speed jigging. So we basically had to learn everything on our own. Through the internet mostly, and experiment with different techniques. And that is how we came across this website too.
    Btw, love the detail on the youtube videos you’ve posted. All the gear and explanations. Hope to see more soon!
    Thanks

  16. Joe
    Joe12-19-2014

    Like to check for comparing Ocea jigger limited 3000PG and Saltiga Z30 ?
    Thinking which one to get so asking if there any good advice ?
    Thank

    • Totos
      Totos12-20-2014

      Hi Joe.
      I recommend OJ over Saltiga for slow pitch jigging for various reasons.
      I wonder why not OJ1500HG but OJ3000PG you are thinking. They are about the same speed, about 97cm retrieve per crank. OJ3000 has much power of course, but OJ1500 is cheaper and many slow pitch anglers prefer OJ1500HG for shallow and light slow pitch jigging.
      What is your main depth range? And how is your boat operating while fishing, free drifting or drifting with sea-anchor?

  17. SALIM
    SALIM12-28-2014

    hi Totos.

    firstly i would like to thank you for your effort of making a wonderful & useful site for anglers,well im from UAE/DUBAI,i do alot of high speed jigging in oman,in dubai our max depth is 35m so i was thinking about low speed jigging,im looking for an overhead reel from ocea jigger but dont know which one to go for,i want to be able to use it in other parts of my country where i also go jigging in which the depth goes upto 200m+,the rod im looking at buying from malaysia is STORM GOMOKU rod or NAJOR CRAFT if its avail in malaysia since we dont have those brands in dubai,please advise what will be suitable for me to use in both depths,looking fwd for your prompt reply.

    • Totos
      Totos01-05-2015

      Hi Salim.
      Yes, the rod is always the trouble to get started. Gomoku is not a slow pitch rod. I don’t recommend Majorcraft.
      You obviously need 2 rods. 35m to 200m is too wide a range to cover with 1 rod.

      If you are only thinking to get the rod locally, you should get a Majorcraft for 35m. Get started, learn the game and get used to the actions. And if you decide to get serious about it, import fine rods from Japan I will help you. You can save money till then. And maybe by then more rods will be available in your area.

  18. Athhar
    Athhar01-13-2015

    hi totos,
    I was just going through the comments and saw that you said you wouldn’t recommend a major craft rod. why is that?

    • Totos
      Totos01-16-2015

      Hi Athhar.
      I don’t recommend Class C rods listed here.
      http://www.anglers-secrets.com/rods-and-reels/

      When you know what slow pitch rod is, you can tell they are not just by holding them. They are not highly resilient and flexible as they are supposed to be. And they are not made in Japan. The consistency of the quality is in doubt. I’ve seen a couple of anglers breaking the rods when they strike at the contacts.

      But it does not mean that you can’t practice slow pitch with these rods. If you want to try it out, you should find these rods worthwhile. The more you get into the game, the more you would want the real slow pitch rods. I would encourage you to upgrade it.
      When your field is shallow and your jig is light, the light model of these rods may work just fine. So it is actually not a bad idea to start with the light Class C rod, then get a medium or heavy Class A or B rod, and alternate these 2 rods for different tactics for a while. And when the time comes, you can replace C rod with a better one.

  19. Athhar
    Athhar01-17-2015

    hi Totos,

    funny thing is, when we saw those rods in the C class category, me and one other friend bought two giant killing rods. and my friends’ rod broke 2 days back. and it was at strike when he tried to hook the fish too! hehe!
    anyway, as you said I think it’s a good rod to start learning maybe. I haven’t been able to test out my one yet. will send you some pics when I get some.

    thanks!

    • Totos
      Totos01-21-2015

      Oh, no. I’m sorry to hear that for your friend. I hope he doesn’t give up on slow pitch.
      Good luck to you Athhar.

  20. Ron
    Ron02-12-2015

    Hi, what do you think about the reel wiki jigging from jigging master?

    • Totos
      Totos02-14-2015

      Jigging Master is not in Japanese market and I’ve never seen it. So I don’t know.
      The spec looks sufficient. 6.2 gear ratio, 95cm per crank. The reel is not just about that, though. The gear, the ball bearings, the drag, the sensitivity. You need to actually use the reel to know these things.
      But the spec is good enough to do slow pitch jigging.

  21. Yazz
    Yazz03-05-2015

    Hi. I have a trinindad 14A.. Some people say it’s technically an OJ. Is this true?

    • Totos
      Totos03-06-2015

      Hi Yazz.
      Yes. Trinidad 14A is made by Shimano USA, and it’s equivalent to Ocea Jigger 1500. It’s not made in Japan and the materials are a little different. But the design and the spec is the same.

  22. sham
    sham03-07-2015

    Hi Totos Sensei,

    I like this website and gain a lots of information on slow pitch jigging. Now I have Saltiga Z40. This reel, is it suitable for slow pitch jigging? Or it too big. If suitable, what is the suitable rod spec for this reel? Thanks.

    • Totos
      Totos03-11-2015

      Hi Sham.
      Saltiga Z40 is a bit heavy but I think it’s manageable. 4.9 gear ratio, 92cm retrieve per crank. It’s enough speed and power for slow pitch.
      The rod selection doesn’t really depend on the reel. The determining factors are the water influence and what kind of tactics you want to play in it. The water influence you will get is determined by the depth, the current, your line, and how your boat is operated (free-drifting / drifting with sea-anchor / spankered drift).

      Also check out this page.
      http://www.anglers-secrets.com/faq-how-should-i-match-the-rod-to-the-jig/

  23. firezab
    firezab03-09-2015

    congratulation to your very informative website. I am a new beginner to slow pitch jigging and would like you to recommend a setup for 30-80m water , jig we use typically 40-100g in west malaysia waters. Rods and reels recommendation will be very appreciated.

    • Totos
      Totos03-11-2015

      Hi Firezab.
      I assume you are drifting with sea-anchor at 30m to 80m of water.

      Slow Jerker 603-3
      Ocea Jigger 1500HG
      Shimano EX8 (or Super Fireline) PE1.5 x 300m
      Seaguar FXR #10
      Jig
      – Gawky 180g, 220g
      – Rector 130g, 150g, 180g
      – Gawky 140g, 170g
      – Spunky 100g, 130g
      – Arc 200g

      If you are not allowed to put on sea-anchor, Slow Jerker 603-4 and 1 class heavier jig weights.

  24. akra
    akra03-12-2015

    Hi totos, i got abu garcia salty stage revo Lj. Can i use it slow pitch jigging?below are the spec.

    Maximum Take-Up Line: 87cm 
    Gear Ratio: 7.1 
    Weight: 295g 
    Maximum Drag Force: 6.5kg 
    Maximum Intake Line Winding: -200m issue PE3 
    Spool Diameter: 39mm 
    Ball/Roller Bearings: 6/1 

    • Totos
      Totos03-21-2015

      Hi Akra.
      Hmmm. Sounds like a high gear ratio for not so fast speed. But I think you can start with that in the shallow water, probably up to 60m. When you go deeper and use jigs like 200g, it will probably become hard to do.

  25. chin
    chin03-20-2015

    Hi Totos さん、

    Will a calcuta conquest type J be more suitable for a light game on pslj603-2, or pslj603-3?

    When slow pitching with these setup with 180g class of jig, have you also experimented to do normal jigging using normal vertical jig? In the meantime also feel for contacts?

    • Totos
      Totos03-21-2015

      Regarding Calcutta Conquest Type-J, the HG model is not bad for shallow light jigging. If you haven’t bought it, Ocea Conquest HG model is probably what you should get.
      Suppose you use Slow Jerker, Conquest reel, PE1.5, and you are vertical, yes, the sensitivity is there. But what you are most easily to lose in those factors is the staying vertical part. If you have a line slack, and your line is loose, there’s no way you can hear the jig.

  26. Turkish Angler
    Turkish Angler03-27-2015

    Dear Totos,

    I have an Okuma 5ii 2 speed reel. It is suitable for slow pitch jigging?

    Thanks,

    • Totos
      Totos04-12-2015

      Hi Turkish Angler.
      I don’t know this Taiwanese reel. As long as it retrieves about 75cm per crank “at the depth you are fishing”, it meets the minimum requirement for slow pitch jigging.

  27. Rolando Jeremillo Jr.
    Rolando Jeremillo Jr.04-05-2015

    Hello Totos, kudos to a terrific site! Seeking some advise between a 1500 HG limited or a 3000 HG limited. We usually fish at around 150 mtrs. I already have a couple of 2000 OJ’s so I’d want some variety. I did consider getting LD’s but the auto-engage of the ocea’s are just unbeatable. Also what’s the lightest slow-pitch jig that you can use on PE-3? Thanks and more power!
    Docjun

    • Totos
      Totos04-12-2015

      Hi Rolando.
      Thank you for your compliments.
      It should be OJ3000HG Limited for the power you will need under such water volume at 150m. Jig weight doesn’t really rely on the line weight. We use 500g jig on PE1.5 at 200m to 300m deep sometimes.
      What concerns me is that even from our spankered boat which keeps you alined with the jig, we use PE3 for high pitch jigging only. PE3 will have much more slack line in the water, and we need strong impacts of high pitch to move the jig. Of course it depends on the currents at the time, but slow pitch may not be able to move the jig on PE3 at 150m deep.

  28. Rolando Jeremillo Jr.
    Rolando Jeremillo Jr.04-19-2015

    Thanks again Totos! It took me and my wife some time to accept and embrace lighter lines for slow pitch jigging, but it all makes perfect sense. Ocea Jigger 3000 HG it is! If you can recommend any reputable sellers of this reel we would greatly appreciate it!

  29. Totos
    Totos04-20-2015

    Hi Rolando.
    Send me a PM and I’ll send you a quote.
    Cheers.

  30. ND
    ND05-04-2015

    Hi Totos,
    Thanks for this terrific site, you just made slow jigging fishing more interesting that the normal speed jig we are playing. Nice and detailed explanation. Because of your webpage, I got poisoned and bought 603-4 without thinking of which reel to pair first. Haha. Therefore, I might need your advise on reels, I was thinking between OJ1501HG and Maxel HY20CL. There are 2 things that I like about is Maxel is that the reel has thumb bar spool release and packs a 13kgs drag. Any comment on this reel?

    • Totos
      Totos05-04-2015

      Hi ND.
      Thank you very much for your compliments. I’m glad that my site helps you switch to slow pitch jigging.
      If your main field is shallower than 80m, OJ1500HG. If deeper, OJ2000NR-HG. It’s kind of hard (short of power) for OJ1500HG to dance in 100m and deeper.

      Maxel… A chinese maker. I don’t know about it.

      Would you need 13kg drag anyway? 13kg drag on maximum line load means that it is a far tighter drag at the depth you strike. 13kg max drag is when you set the adjuster free. In reality the max drag will be much more because you tighten the adjuster to get the appropriate drag at strike position. Can your line take that?
      Also, big weight drag capacity means you can’t adjust for a small amount.

      We use light line for slow pitch and we change the drag pretty often during the fight because of that. I think I would like OJ better for the silky smooth drag.

      • ND
        ND05-04-2015

        Hi Totos,

        Thanks for clearing out my doubts, looks like OJ1501HG will be my choice then, im not sure Maxel is China brand cause their website seems from western. It just seems easier to lock spool using thumb bar rather than level strike to me.haha.

  31. Kemal Saden
    Kemal Saden05-13-2015

    Hello Totos,
    Thank you for such an useful website for anglers. I am also interested in slow pitch and inchiku. I am setting a reel an rod combo. As i understand from your comments shimano ocea jiggerand pposeidon slow jerker are your favourites. But their prices are high for my budget for now. Dou you have any alternatives cheaper? I can invest for 150-200usd for reel and 120-180 usd for rod. Doyou have any idea about Abu Garcia SALTY STAGE Revo LJ-.3 and major craft crostage slow pitch rods? I will buy Jdm products.

    • Totos
      Totos05-18-2015

      Hi Kemal.
      I always have a mixed feeling here. Everyone has budget. And a lot of time you can’t afford what I recommend and you want to buy.
      The rod has got much more to do with the slow pitch than the reel. I recommend to get at least Class B rods. The reel is only required to retrieve 75cm per crank at the depth you are fishing. But it can be a little less if it needs to be.
      But on the other hand, the creativity is the heart of slow pitch. Basic principles can be applied to any style of vertical game. It’s not that everything has to be this or that way. Even with the spinning tackle, you can apply some principles and be productive.
      This is true especially in the fish rich environment. You don’t have to stay vertical. The line can be PE4.0 or heavier. The rod and reel can be anything. Just keep letting the center-balanced jig fall, and you can be devastating.
      Slow pitch was born for the purpose to catch fish at the times no one else is catching. And it was born to do so in the highly competitive waters around Japan. You probably don’t have to follow in every details to be successful in your fields.

      So, your rod needs to be Class B and better. It also can be Class C. Or it can be inchiku rod even. But please understand I can’t recommend which class C rod is better. I still don’t recommend Class C rod.

      Your budget also depends on your motivation. If you are convinced that slow pitch works and you like the game, you can easily go beyond the budget. The budget is just the limit that you set in order to stop you from going crazy. If you go crazy, the limit is nothing. hahaha.

      So I think it’s a wise idea to start with the tackle you can get easily. And then if you decide that you are crazy about it, you can save up and upgrade your tackle. But start with the light rod like power 3 in the shallow waters which have better chance to stay more vertical. When you upgrade, you can get a descent power 4, 5 or 6 model and go deeper. And you can still use the power 3 rod for a variety for soft action tone.

      But I have a mixed feeling here also. I believe you can learn the most from the best tackle…

  32. Juan Gil
    Juan Gil05-15-2015

    Hi. I have a Talica 10 II.. Some people say it’s technically an OJ. Is this true? How it work for slow jigging?

    • Totos
      Totos05-18-2015

      Hi Juan.
      Talica is not Ocea Jigger. Trinidad by Shimano USA is Ocea Jigger. Talica is Talica. But we don’t have Talica 10 model. I think it’s the same as our Jigger LD 2000. I have Jigger LD 2000. I like it. But as far as the power and speed, I still recommend OJ2000. But if you already have Talica 10, sure, why not? Give it a go to slow pitch.

  33. Darrin
    Darrin05-22-2015

    Hi Totos. Thanks for a great web site with lots of information. Where I fish, I fish no deeper than 50m. Would the Ocea Jigger 1000 work? Is this reel the same reel as the 1500, with a smaller spool?

    • Totos
      Totos05-24-2015

      That’s right Darrin. And yes, it should be good for 50m depth.

  34. chris
    chris05-27-2015

    Thoughts on the new model Saltiga overhead for slow pitch?

  35. ANDY
    ANDY06-04-2015

    Hi Totos,

    I was planning to buy longer handle for my OJ1501HG ltd, will 92mm or 100mm be more suitable? and which knob is more suitable to do slow jigging, T-handle bar or round knob? your website is a poison to every fishing enthusiasts. two thumbs up.

    • Totos
      Totos06-06-2015

      Hi Andy.
      Thank you for your compliments. I’ll keep doing my best.
      85mm is fine, I think. 100mm handle has a good chance of breaking the gears. It’ll be too powerful.
      T-bar is, of course, generate more power. But with OJ1500 class would not handle such heavy jigs. I think round knob is fine unless you prefer the style of T-bar.
      So the cheapest solution for you is to get a handle bar for OJ2000 and put it on with the original OJ1500 handle knob. I have OJ2000 handle bar for sale at JPY2800.

  36. GyRo
    GyRo06-04-2015

    Dear Totos, thank you very much for the very informative and detailed explanation on slow jigging. I think your website has become “THE” website to go to for anything to with slow jigging.

    I have just only started on slow jigging and would like your opinion/input on the options of reels that I am currently looking at:

    1. Ocea Jigger Limited 3000HG
    2. Okuma Andros 5NII
    3. Penn Fathom 25N

    I will be pairing the reel with STORM Gomoku Kaiten PE1-3, due to the limited availability of Poseidon or Beat rods here in Malaysia.

    Target fishing field would be waters from 20m – 80m with medium to medium high currents, with jig weights ranging from 60gm to 250gm (due to the currents) Appreciate if you can give me your opinion on the setup . Thank you.

    • Totos
      Totos06-06-2015

      Hi GyRo.
      Thank you very much for your compliments. I really appreciate everyones supports.

      Definitely OJ3000HG Limited. I don’t know 2 other reels. But Ocea Jigger is a sure thing, a proven reel you can rely on for its smooth drag, the precision gears, the perfect balance of the power and speed.

      Wrote a little about reel drag on fb.
      https://www.facebook.com/JapaneseAnglersSecrets/posts/838669922887527

      Good luck

  37. murat iyriboz
    murat iyriboz06-14-2015

    I have been using Accurate reels since 10 years on my boat with extremely good results. All my trolling gear are ATD Platinum reels, which I use them for chumming for Tuna as well. For jigging and bottom fishing their Boss model is what I can recommend. They are the innovator of light and small reels but lots of fighting power with their strong drag . Also the twin drag system lets you to have precise drag setting, helps you not to loose fish in serious fights. Last year a friend of mine caught a 68 kg. Bluefin Tuna, while fishing for smaller bottom fish with their smallest reel BX 400, He did land the fish after an hour of a fight and it was an amazing catch, considering the light tackle, he was fishing with.

  38. Angelo angara
    Angelo angara06-23-2015

    Hi Totos my name is Angelo ,and this is is really the best slow pitch and slow jig site ever so far !
    So I fish slow light jigging since some two years now here in Costabrava Spain,I say light jigging cause I mix all jigging techniques ,mostly slow pitch techniques but with all sort of jigs and soft vinil jigs now also and I have great results mostly on Dentex ,big ones 8k to 10 k,in depts from 50 m to 120m,I used a Ryoga Bayjigging 2020 custom for jigging and a daiwa saltist Bayjigging rod mostly.
    But in spring here when we are doing some light jigging to Dentex fish, many times smal tunas bite ,and the gear gets to light mostly the capacity of pe line of the reels…And we loose the fish and the line and the jig….so my idea was in spring to use a stronger tackle ,like a pe3 rod and a Saltiga 15HL ,and try to fish the tunas also (the small ones till 30k tops)what do you think about Saltiga 15HL?its ok for slow pitch light game and also for some more heavy stuff?and do you think I could fish a tuna with a pe3rod and the Saltiga 15 HL?
    Thank you in advance!

    • Totos
      Totos06-28-2015

      Hi Angelo.
      Hmmm. Interesting problem. So you want to keep your Dentex game with a sufficient tackle to catch big tuna that takes your jig at this time.
      Saltiga 15 is a very compact reel, about the same size as Ocea Jigger 1500. I would get Ocea Jigger 2000HG. Or wait for future production of Saltiga of bigger model.
      I don’t know what line you use, but if you switch to heavier line, you will contact rate. It’s your call. PE2.0 x 600m may have better chances than PE3.0 x 300m.

      • Angelo angara
        Angelo angara06-30-2015

        Thank you so much Totos for sharing your opinion and knowledge .
        Kind regards

  39. Ztsc
    Ztsc07-02-2015

    Hello there, i want to try micro/light slow pitch jigging in shallow waters..say, around 20m to 30m depth with 30g to 60g jigs.i am inclined to use low profile reels as they’re lighter.

    I am thinking of trying Daiwa Aird Coastal. What do you think?

    Ive tried jigging with spinning outfit and it feels awkward lol..

    Thanks!

    • Totos
      Totos07-10-2015

      In the original concept of slow pitch jigging, we need certain depth and certain jig weight to use the rod’s spring back actions for slow pitch game. All the slow pitch jigs are mostly 60g and heavier, right?

      The reel is required to have 75cm per crank speed “at the depth you are fishing”. You also want a longer handle for torqueful, sometimes punchy, and rhythmical strokes for slow pitch jigging. The swept handle is good for steady retrieving but not for slow pitch actions.

      However, your depth and your jig weights totally sound like micro jigging. And you want to mix in some slow pitch principles in your game. That is totally cool too. And this reel should have no problem for that.

      • Ztsc
        Ztsc07-13-2015

        Thanks for your reply Totos. Yes you are correct.. its basically micro jigging with slow pitch principles. I found using 60g and 80g jigs are the best in the forementioned depths.

        and thanks for your comment on the reel handle and specs, I found this reel..

        BLUE MAX船 (ブルーマックス船)

        i think the better alternative for the blue max fune would be the Salty Stage Revo series but since im a little bit tight on budget i might as well skip these Salty Stage Series and save up for Ryoga Bay Jigging and use the blue max fune for a while. 🙂

        Thanks again your articles are such a great help.

        greetings from Malaysia 🙂

        • Totos
          Totos07-18-2015

          Yes, Ryoga Bay Jigging is a much better reel. And the new Saltiga 15 is much more suitable for light jigging.

  40. wey
    wey07-05-2015

    Hi master Toto
    Im Wey from indonesia
    Thank You sharing so many info for us
    I need your review for new daiwa ryoga 2025 for slow jig..
    And i need more info to use pe 1.5 for 400~500gram jig in 100 plus depht.
    Consider in that depth the current and the fish must be bigger than usually…
    Thx before
    Regards

    • Totos
      Totos07-10-2015

      Hi Wey.
      I don’t think Ryoga 2025 has enough power to dance 400g jig.
      PE1.5 for 400g jig in 100m+ of water? That sounds fine with me. I can tell you are taking your chances for the effort to stay vertical in the deep and the currents. Getting contacts is the first thing you should focus on, I think. Then you refine your knots, your hooks, take a good care of your line to bring home big fish. And PE1.5 is not too weak. Should have no problem at least up to 20kg fish.
      http://www.anglers-secrets.com/slowpitchtactics/

  41. Eric
    Eric07-08-2015

    Hi Totos

    I’ve been reading your site time and time again for a more understanding on slow jigging. It’s very informative,thanks

    I’m just wondering is the Daiwa Ryoga 2025 (7.4:1) and the Daiwa Ryoga 1012 PE-SHL suitable for slow jigging? I’m pairing the Tenyru Horizon SL PE3 with the Daiwa 2025 and Shimano Game Type Slow J PE 2 with the Daiwa 1012.

    Was wondering if this is a good pairing or is there anything better?
    Thanks

    • Totos
      Totos07-11-2015

      Hi Eric.
      The slow pitch reels are only required to have 75cm per crank speed “at the depth you are fishing”. 1012 doesn’t meet that single requirement. 2025 has 87cm max.
      The power (gear ratio) helps you dance against the jig weight and the water resistance. I don’t know how heavy you are playing, and if 2025 has enough power for you.
      For the same price, you can buy Ocea Jigger 2000NR-HG, which is a sure thing.

      • Eric
        Eric07-13-2015

        thanks Totos,

        i’m fishing at bout 50m to 80m in depth. Jig weight range from 100gm to 250gm. I know Shimano Ocea Jigger 2000NR or the 1500 limited edition is a good reel but there are absolutely no stock in my country. That is why i opted for Daiwa.

        thanks

  42. nik
    nik07-09-2015

    Hi
    Really like ur blog and found it really useful. Just want to get some advices.
    I got ocea conquest 201hg and been planning to use it with tenryu horizon pe2 for slow jigging. Is this reel strong enough to paly around with jig size 150-200g? Pls advice.

    • Totos
      Totos07-11-2015

      Hi Nik.
      Sato Sensei loves Ocea Conquest 300HG for bottom fish game in the shallow structures (50m to 70m deep) with 100g to 150g jig. (Note he is on a spankered and controlled drift to stay vertical. Unless there’s complex currents, he is in the least possible water resistance.)

      201HG with 150g+ jig and the water resistance may be a bit too hard.

      But hey, you already have the reel. It only means that you have to work a little harder. If you just work to crank a turn against the jig weight and the water resistance, the reel will retrieve what it’s supposed to. (78cm max) And you can get your slow pitch going. I wouldn’t say you can’t slow pitch with this reel.

      • nik
        nik07-11-2015

        Thanks toto. Means that i ve bought something thats not right for me. I shoulld ve got ocea jigger as the price of ocea conquest is bout the same as ocea jigger. So to slow jigging with this ocea conquest i ve to put alot more effort. Thanks for ur advices.

        • Totos
          Totos07-14-2015

          You shouldn’t have much trouble with your jigs, especially in the shallow water. Keep exploring!

  43. Aganis
    Aganis07-13-2015

    Hi Totos,
    I think this is the best and comprehensive fishing website talking a specific technique I ever found. excellent job.
    I am starting to practice slow pitch jigging, with my existing gears, which are not even on your Class C list , haha… but still, I can feel the joy of slow pitch already …

    few question :

    reel :
    I found old school shimano scorpion ocea jigger 2000 ratio 6.2:1 at good price. Is this good for slow game?

    rod :
    I have read your comment about Majorcraft. There is another popular rod with low price in my country, Zen Zagan Slow Twitch http://www.theasianangler.com/issues/jun2013/files/assets/basic-html/page60.html. I loved to slow jig with this rod, combined with size 4k spinning reel. What do you think about this rod (oh version) for slow pitch jigging?

    • Totos
      Totos07-18-2015

      Hi Aganis.
      Thank you for your compliments. I appreciate that.

      Scorpion and Ocea Jigger are 2 different reels. You need to double check on that. If it is Ocea Jigger 2000NR-HG 6.2:1, it is the most popular reel for slow pitch anglers in Japan.

      I don’t know about this rod. This is not a slow pitch rod. But in the wide interpretation of slow pitch jigging, you can certainly practice slow pitch principles with any tackles.

  44. busted
    busted07-26-2015

    Hi Toto, greetings from Malaysia.

    I am a right handed person. If i were to buy an overhead reel for jigging, should I choose left handle or right handle? I read in one of the blog that I should take the left handle even though for right handed guy. Can you give your advise?

    • Totos
      Totos07-30-2015

      Hi Busted.
      As far as I can think of, the advantage for a right-handed person to have a left handle is in the casting game. You cast with your right arm, and you can retrieve right away with your left hand, while you would have to switch the rod to your left hand to retrieve with your right hand.
      In off-shore vertical game, it really doesn’t matter. Some exotic overhead jigging reels are only available in right-hand, (at least it used to be), so a lot of left-handle anglers try to get used to the right handle for the overhead reel.

  45. Gary
    Gary07-29-2015

    Hello Toto,
    Hafa Adai from the beautiful island of Guam! What would be your recommendation on handle upgrade for the Shimano Ocean Jigger 2001nr-hg? Do you recommend circle power knob or changing it out to T-bar? If so, which size and length will be best?

    • Totos
      Totos07-30-2015

      Hafa Adai, Gary.
      Ocea Jigger 2000 has a practical handle length for slow pitch jigging. I used to use the normal handle for about a year before I switched to SOM 95mm T-bar handle. I would have stayed with the normal 85mm handle if I stay within 100m range. But the cranking power of 95mm T-bar is just irresistible when you use heavy jigs in deeper waters.

      Just be careful when you choose the handle. Especially in the connecting part of the knob to the handle arm. I’ve seen some handles are very poorly built. On the other hand Japanese ones are very well built with high quality materials but very expensive. Such a headache.

  46. Alvin
    Alvin08-26-2015

    Hello Toto,
    i have read all posts here.. Just asking for you opinion for singapore waters around 50 to 80 meters depth. probably 80 and up to 150grams jig. I would like to use PE2.0 line… I always wanted to get OJ1501limited but I like the Ryoga C2025 PE-SHL for the line level guide and now there is a new Satiga 10HL… What you recommend? Or do you think i should keep my Ocea Calcutta 301HG? But i will need to find 85mm handle to change as think is too short.

    • Totos
      Totos08-30-2015

      Hi Alvin.
      I own Ocea Culcatta 301HG. That’s what Sato Sensei uses in the shallow water. If you don’t expect big fish, that’s a good reel to stay for now.

      Here’s my post on levelwinder.
      http://www.anglers-secrets.com/why-do-we-use-the-reel-without-levelwider/

      I don’t think Daiwa reels are as good as Shimano as far as slow pitch jigging is concerned. If they have the same speed (retrieve length per crank), Shimano has more torque. But Daiwa is a little bit more expensive, and a lot of people question its durability here. That is why most slow pitch anglers here use Shimano reels.

      But you may get different impressions when you talk to different people.
      I try to stay with facts, but I’m a kind of angler who often uses shimano reels and daiwa rods. The information is filtered through my preference!

  47. ibrahim
    ibrahim09-02-2015

    hi TOTOS
    i have daiwa saltiga z30 .can i use it for slow jigging in 100-120 meters depth?

    • Totos
      Totos09-06-2015

      Hi Ibrahim.
      I have a Saltiga Z30. I use it for shallower and lighter game (not slow pitch jigging, as I have PE0.8 loaded on it).
      The retrieve length is 90cm. I would say you can do slow pitch in 100 – 120m deep. It would be a little tough, but probably manageable.
      If you are thinking to buy one, I would recommend other reels but since you have one, don’t hesitate to try in the field!

  48. Matthieu
    Matthieu09-07-2015

    Hello, i am from France and i hesitate between the ocea jigger 2001 NR-HG and the ocea jigger limited 1501 HG. Can you help me to choose the best reel for me?
    I use to fish between 50 to 130m deep, and want fish between 2 to 10-15kg max. I thought the 2001 NR-HG could be better but i would like to have your opinion 🙂
    Thank you for the answer and hope read you soon, have a nice day !
    Matt

    • Totos
      Totos09-11-2015

      For your target and field, yes, I agree, OJ2000NR-HG is better. At 100m and deeper, you should be using the jig weight over 200g, maybe up to 300g or more. OJ1500HG would be a bit short of power even though it is possible.

  49. JoCTY
    JoCTY09-10-2015

    After reading through this section, i noticed many people just asking the same questions over and over again although similar questions have been asked and replied by Totos. My hats off to Totos for the patience shown. Seriously, to understand more about slow-pitching, one have to read through the comments previously raised and answered, that way, one will have a clearer understanding of what reels will be suited to your requirements etc etc. I had many questions in mind, but by just reading through this section, my questions was answered clearly and repeatedly.

    • Totos
      Totos09-11-2015

      Hi JoCTY.
      Thank you very much for your comment. I appreciate your concerns and efforts.
      I think this is a very new idea for most people, and I wouldn’t mind all the questions. I just kept piling up pieces of information and it’s not organized as much as I want it to be. I know many people had to spend much time to read through this site and come up with solutions on their own. I appreciate that. I also understand when you want quick answers, you just want to ask. I appreciate that too. When I started learning this game, I didn’t have many people to ask questions to. And that is the reason why I started this site. So it’s OK either way. I only do what I can do when I can do it.

  50. Abg Sulaiman
    Abg Sulaiman09-19-2015

    Hi Toto,

    I’m from Malaysia. Still very new in slow jig game. Plan to buy one. Which one better suite :-

    Saltiga 15h
    OJ2000
    Ryoga bay jigging

    Please advise

    Thanks

    • Totos
      Totos09-27-2015

      Hi Adg.
      There’s no such thing as “the best reel”. It depends on the situation you use, and also on your preference. If you are just starting, you may not have preferences. So the situation is the determining factor.

      Tell me your main depth range.

      Also tell me how your boat is operating while fishing? Free-drifting? Drifting with sea-anchor? Or controlled drift by the captain?

  51. Abg Sulaiman
    Abg Sulaiman09-28-2015

    Hi Totos,

    Thank you very much of your comment. Appreciate ur valuable informations.

    Back to your questions,

    1. Depth bet 25m – 80m. But normally we use to fish @ 50m deep.
    2. We were normally anchor at 1 point for couples of hours & then stop to another point for couples of hours. We only start drifting by captain if move to next point.

    Hope I able to give u accurate information.

    Btw, as a beginner, Poseidon & beat rods are quite expensive to start off ( or maybe u uv different perceptions). How about Hearty Rise Slow Jigging II rod? Or maybe other options u can advise.

    Regards

    • Totos
      Totos10-02-2015

      Hi Abg.
      I recommend OJ1500HG.
      http://www.anglers-secrets.com/ocea-jigger-1500-or-2000/

      I would still recommend Class A or B rod because I think you will learn the most with it.
      http://www.anglers-secrets.com/rods-and-reels/
      But if you want to take it easy and just play how it goes, any rod would do.

      • Abg Sulaiman
        Abg Sulaiman10-03-2015

        Hi Totos

        Thanks again with ur valuable informations & I’m totally agreed with you.

        Last couple of days I met a new friend at my hometown whose running premium tackle shop. He recommended me OJ1500HG + Beat BLX instead of Saltiga 15H + HR slow jig2. He said though it quite expensive (almost USD1k) but u wouldn’t regret it.

        So, I believe U would advise me the same thing.

        Appreciate ur kind assistant all the his while.

        Now, I should start to save some money for that

        Kind regards

  52. HK
    HK10-03-2015

    Hi Totos,

    I’m currently saving up for Shimano OJ 2000NR-HG.

    Right now I have a standard baitcasting reel with 3.2:1 ratio. It retrieves around 50 cm per crank on full spool (less on the depth). My question is: do you think my slow pitch jigging technique will be severely limited with this slow retrieves?

    Also, I want to bought several items from your store. Do you ship to Indonesia?

  53. Totos
    Totos10-08-2015

    Hi HK.
    Well, “75cm retrieve at the depth” isn’t really requirement.
    In order to dance the jig, we need to 1) lift the jig, and 2) take out the line slack. And to do this, we do reeling and rod lifting. We repeat this with suspension in between. 75cm retrieve of the reel and some 6 foot-long rod happened to be the best match to dance in different rhythms, found by Sato Sensei.
    Slow pitch jigging isn’t really “slow” retrieve. We need to give the jig certain impact by reeling. Then the rod kicks back and cast the jig. We give a hangtime before we do the next reeling. So the pitch is slow, but the reel turn isn’t slow. If there’s no line slack in the water and you are in straight vertical alignment with the jig, 50cm retrieve may be sufficient. But the reality isn’t like that.

    50cm retrieve is good enough for long fall actually. If necessary, you can make 2 or 3 reel turns before you lift too. In long fall technique, the rod kick back isn’t really important. You just need to lift slow and let it fall all the way.

    Yes, I can ship to Indonesia by EMS.

  54. Goo's
    Goo's11-02-2015

    Hi totos, 2 reel in my list and I hope u can give me some suggestion . Ocea jigger limited 1500HG , saltigal 10H

    • Totos
      Totos11-22-2015

      Hi Goo’s
      I’ve heard many complains that Daiwa reels with magnetic shield start “glinding” after a fish fight. Ocea Jigger has solid reputations.

  55. James
    James11-11-2015

    Hi Totos,

    Big thank you for all your information, it clearly helps everyone a lot. I’m not sure if it has been asked yet but what are your thoughts on Daiwa’s 2015 Saltiga OH?

    • Totos
      Totos11-22-2015

      Hi James.
      I’ve heard many complains that Daiwa reels with magnetic shield start “glinding” after a fish fight. It’s made in Korea.

  56. jef
    jef11-17-2015

    hi toto,would like to ask you.im fishing at 30 to 70m.so wich reel should i use JO2000NRPG or JO2000NRHG wich one you recommene.im fishing at zee zone area so the current is quite strong.im using jig from 80g to 250g thank.

    • Totos
      Totos11-22-2015

      Hi Jef. Go for high gear. The current will take your line out while you are playing the jig. You would like the speed to take in the line slack.

  57. jef
    jef11-17-2015

    hi toto, thank very much for your info..

  58. Bricky
    Bricky11-18-2015

    Hi Totos,
    Have you had a chance to look at the new Daiwa saltiga. The new 2015 Saltiga is available in 2 sizes – 10 and 15, in 2 retrieve ratios: 5.1 (retrieves 80cm per turn) and 6.4 (retrieves 100cm per turn). Handle length is 85-95mm. I’ve read its only 450 grams. It looks ok to me but you are the expert and I would value your opinion.
    Regards
    Bricky

    • Totos
      Totos11-22-2015

      Hi Bricky.
      I’ve heard many complains that Daiwa reels with magnetic shield start “glinding” after a fish fight. It’s made in Korea by the way.

      • Bricky
        Bricky11-23-2015

        Thanks for the heads up! Will stick with the ocea jigger 😉

  59. abel
    abel11-22-2015

    Hai totos, how about oj1001hg for slow pitch at swallow water l.. i like it because the saiz is small than other

    • Totos
      Totos11-22-2015

      OJ1001HG has the same spec as OJ1501HG, except for the line load.
      I would still get a OJ1501HG, though. I may deepen my field in the future, and I would want 400m line, preferably 600m, loaded in case I hook a big one.

      • abel
        abel11-23-2015

        Thx for reply. By the way the deepest in my place is 200mtr. For line, i would like to take varivas avani jigging max power around 20lb is that good for slow pitch?

        • Totos
          Totos11-28-2015

          Yes as long as you can stay close to vertical.

  60. Ixrone
    Ixrone11-23-2015

    Hi toto,

    Any advise on the new daiwa catalina bay jigging 200SH? Looks good to me.

    Daiwa use to hard the most hardly reels before mag seal version. But this catalina does not have mag seal. On the plus side. It comes with sync levelwind and also 75/85 handle.
    81cm retrieve on a 7.4:1 gear ratio.

    Please kindly comment on this reel?

    Thanks!

    • Totos
      Totos11-28-2015

      Hi Ixrone.
      I would say yes for light slow pitch jigging in the shallow.

      • Newton
        Newton03-02-2016

        Hello Mr. Totos,

        What do you consider as shallow water? Usually I go no deeper than 40m, is that ok for the Catalina bj 200sh? Some friends of mine have caught nice fish there (amberjack 10kg and cobia 27kg). Do you think Catalina can handle such fighters?

        Thank you! You’re the man!

        Best regards,

        Newton

        • Totos
          Totos03-06-2016

          Hi Newton.
          Sorry if I didn’t specify enough. I mean shallow water to be less than 50m or 70m max. So you are in the shallow.
          The speed, 81cm per crank, should be enough. Gear ratio of 7.3 would make me nervous for the lack of power.
          But you own the reel. I would keep trying before worrying! If you find yourself not being able to win the battle with big fish. Then you can consider upgrading the reel. But while you are trying, you will learn a lot about this technique.
          When you upgrade, consider Ocea Conquest 300HG and Ocea Jigger 1500HG.
          Good luck!

  61. Najeeb Rahman
    Najeeb Rahman12-01-2015

    Hello there. im thinking about using 7.1 to 8.1 for slow pitch jigging. any comment or advice? thanks for reading in advance

    • Totos
      Totos12-04-2015

      Hi Najeeb.
      I assume you are talking about the gear ratio. It’s a high gear reel huh?
      The least requirement is what I call the speed, “75cm per crank retrieve 1at the depth you are fishing.” If the spec doesn’t say the retrieve speed per crank, you can calculate by multiplying the gear ratio by the maximum circumference of the spool. That is the maximum speed. You will lose the speed when you have line out of the spool to the depth. But you get the idea when you choose a reel to buy.

      On the other end of your balance scale is the power. When you compare different reels, gear ratio is not the only factor for the reel’s power, but a major factor. The lower the gear ratio is, the more power the reel winds up.

      • Roy Karok
        Roy Karok12-06-2015

        The LPT of the reel is 93cm, so i think its not good for jigging.. Sad i already bought the reel

        • Totos
          Totos12-09-2015

          Well, then. Good luck!
          There’s a lot more skills that you can learn in the field!

  62. Jeff
    Jeff12-08-2015

    Hi im new for fishing and currently i plan on getting Shimano Ocea jigger limited 3000hg.. i know its a jigging reel but can we cast with this reel? I mean even the result isnt as far as a spinning reels can we use it for casting without backlash? Sorry for my terible english and good blog you good sir have there cheers

    • Totos
      Totos12-09-2015

      Hi Jeff.
      Thank you very much for your compliments.
      You can undercast a little bit with Ocea Jigger. But it’s really not for casting.

  63. Ngan Tengshin
    Ngan Tengshin12-11-2015

    Would like to know how about the latest Ocean Conquest 301HG. I think it is suitable for water less then 100m and the only thing is the handle too short.

    • Totos
      Totos01-15-2016

      Hi Ngan.
      Exactly. It’s a good reel but the handle is a little short.
      Sato sensei really likes this reel actually. He uses in the shallow waters like 40 – 70 meters. On spankered boat, of course, with which you don’t have much line slack. And the jig weight will be less than 130g.
      For handle arm, I think the handle arm for Ocea Jigger 2000 can fit Ocea Conquest. Send me an email and let me know if you are interested. I will look into it.

  64. Fahmi
    Fahmi12-15-2015

    Hai Toto…tq for your information…I want ask u how about Abu revo toro beastst revo t2bst61hs…are u recommend this reel?

    • Totos
      Totos01-15-2016

      Hi Fahmi.
      No. Not for jigging.
      This type of low profile reel is very good for steady retrieve. But not for rhythmical and powerful lifts of heavy metal jigs.

  65. Nick greek
    Nick greek12-16-2015

    Hi Totos. I’m a beginer. Thank you for helping us to enjoy our hobby as much as it can be. I would like to ask you about my reel okuma andros 5Ns, retrieve 106cm, gear ratio 6.2:1, 24lb force and 8,5cm handle, compared with rod Major Craft NP JACK B65/4SP, regular fast/150-200gr, PE1.5-4. Are they good pair for slow jerk? Which fishing depth recommended and what jigs weights can i use? Thank you again.

    • Totos
      Totos01-15-2016

      Hi Nick.
      Your reel sounds adequate for slow pitch jigging. Your rod, however, is not a slow pitch rod and I don’t know how it behaves.
      When we plan the game and the tackle, it’s usually the depth of the field given first. Then we plan jig weights to play. Finally we decide which rod and reel to use. You are coming from the opposite direction. 🙂
      It’s my wild guess. But I would start around 50 to 70 meter range. Jig weight range would be from 150g to 230g.
      These rods are a lot faster action than slow pitch rods. The suggested jig weight may sound very heavy for the rod, but still, it should kick up and release the jig a lot faster than slow pitch rods. The type of jigs like Cranky, Spunky, and Arc should work better. Not the kind of jigs for falling tactics.

  66. AK
    AK12-24-2015

    Thank you so much on all your valuables write up. It’s priceless for everyone’s. It’s really giving lots of tips for those beginner as like me. Currently I’m on OJ1500 limited matched with BEAT 606-4, but some times I felt the rod is a bit lazy when I’m on a 200g jig especially there are some rough sea situation. So recently I just bought a SOM Blue Heaven L50i/R. Do you mind to recommend me which is the best match rod for It. Some of my friends recommended me for BEAT 606-6 or EGOIST 5B Limited.Can you give me some suggestions
    Thank you very much.
    Regards.
    AK

    • Totos
      Totos01-15-2016

      Hi AK.
      Congrats for your best slow pitch jigging reel today. If you feel 606-4 lacks power, sure, you should get a 606-6. Slow Jerker 603-6 class.
      If you are free-drifting, sometimes you just can’t stay vertical and the rod won’t spring up. What you can do is increase jig weight. 300g, 350g, 400g, or 500g. Of course the rod won’t spring up. You are in a very soft action tone. But it’s OK. As long as the jig is heavy enough to fall against the water pushing the line up and away, you have a chance with that falling tactic.

  67. Nick greek
    Nick greek01-19-2016

    Hello Toto. Thank you for your respond. Really αppreciate for your valuable advices which helps me to enter in this exciting game. I see what you mean. Yes, I should have given the depth range in first place which is 50 to 80 meters. Any way, i’m interesting and thinking to get a really technical rod for slow pitch to have a normal startup. Searching In Greek small market i found Megabass Trigya T663TJ jerk max 200gr and Hots stiletto SSS64M jerk max 180gr. Concerning Poseidon rods, I only found the PLFJ 710 H-6 which I think it’s only for long fall tactic, or maybe not only?. If i want to play with jigs weight range 130 to 200gr which rod of those would you recommended? Thank you and my best regards.

    • Totos
      Totos01-27-2016

      I think Hot’s is good. SLOW STYLE SSS63H.

  68. Chris Pace
    Chris Pace02-02-2016

    Hello Toto. thank you for this interesting article. I am new to slow jigging and I am looking for a good set to use in about 100 meters of depth. I am interested in the Palms metal witch MTGC-634SF , what do you think about it and what budget overhead reel do you recommend for this rod please

    • Totos
      Totos02-08-2016

      Hi Chris.
      As far as I know, which is limited to Japan market products, Ocea Jigger is the best I recommend. If your budget doesn’t allow it, try to find the equivalent reel.
      90cm or more retrive length.
      6.3 gear ratio.
      85cm or longer handle.
      Good luck!

  69. Chris Pace
    Chris Pace02-09-2016

    Hi Toto,
    thanks for the advise . i think i will go for the ocea jigger as it seems a very good reel for slow jigging Thanks again for your help

  70. Mohammad Nadzri bin Talib
    Mohammad Nadzri bin Talib02-14-2016

    Hi Sesei Totos, kudos for your sites lot of info and knowledge for the newbies like me. Need your advise for my Daiwa Saltist H20, gear ratio 6.1.1. My playing ground is abt 50m to 70m. My slow pitch is Adajo Pe2 and max jig is abt 200grm. Is suitable combination sesei san? Tqvm. Regards, Mohammad Nadzri frm Malaysia.

    • Totos
      Totos02-17-2016

      This Daiwa reel is not available in Japan and I don’t know the specs.
      If the reel has the following specs, it should be sufficient.
      – 90cm or more retrieve length.
      – 6.3 gear ratio or less.
      – 85cm or longer handle.

      You are fishing in relatively shallow waters, so 85cm retrieve length should be enough probably.

      Good luck!

  71. Josh
    Josh03-11-2016

    Hi Totos, this is Josh from Malaysia, I plan to buy Wiki Jigging 900H, appreciate with your review. Thank you.

    • Totos
      Totos03-12-2016

      I don’t know about the tackles which are not available in Japan Josh.
      Let me just say all the rods I classified as Grade A and B are designed or supervised by one of Japanese slow pitch experts. Their knowledge and skills based on years of field experience are being realized in these rods (within the limit of production budget).

      Other rods don’t have it. Especially non-Japanese brands. I do not mean that they are bad. They may as well be good. I just don’t know.

      • Josh
        Josh03-14-2016

        Not Rod, is reel, wiki jigging reel 900H

        • Totos
          Totos03-23-2016

          Hi Josh.
          Sorry. You were asking about the reel. But I still don’t know because the reel is not available in Japan.

          If I may really get to the bottom of it, it is desirable that the reel has the following specs.
          – 75cm or more retrieve length at the depth you are fishing at.
          – 6.3 gear ratio or less if you want to use jig weight 200g or heavier.
          – 85cm or longer handle.

          Good luck!

  72. Sherief Emad
    Sherief Emad03-15-2016

    Hi Totos,
    I’m planning to get the reel “Avet SX 6/4 L/H 2-Speed Lever Drag” you can find more details on it available on this link :
    http://www.tackledirect.com/avet-sx-64-lh-2-speed-lever-drag-casting-reel-left-hand-silver.html#reviews
    can this be used in the slow pitch jigging ? because i was thinking to use this reel in the slow pitch jigging and the normal mechanical jigging (with the low gear).also there is this reel :

    http://www.tackledirect.com/avet-jx-60-single-speed-lever-drag-casting-reel-black.html

    which one you think it’s good from your point of view ?

    • Totos
      Totos03-23-2016

      Hi Sherief.

      Sorry. I don’t know about the reel that is not available in Japan. And I should not make comments on speculations.

      If I may really get to the bottom of it, it is desirable that the reel has the following specs.
      – 75cm or more retrieve length at the depth you are fishing at.
      – 6.3 gear ratio or less if you want to use jig weight 200g or heavier.
      – 85cm or longer handle.

      Good luck!

  73. Tong
    Tong04-15-2016

    Hi Totos. I’m inspired by your passion and technical knowledge. Now I will get a set for slow pitch jigging, I’m new to this though. Would like your advice on OJ1500, HG or PG for waters no more than 70m, most of the time between 30m to 50m. Need I go on to OJ 2000 even? Slow fall jigs of 40g, maybe 60g to 80g. Rod, maybe Metal Witch Slow and Fall series. Line of PE 1.5. Thank you in advance.

    • Totos
      Totos04-17-2016

      Hi Tong.
      OJ1500 seems fine for your depth. Just need to change the handle for longer. You can buy a handle arm for OJ2000 which fits OJ1500. JPY2800 + shipping and handling.
      You need heavier jigs, though. Slow pitch jigging uses heavier jigs than conventional jigging. #1, you want to stay as vertical as you can. #2, you want the weight enough to get the slow spring-back actions of your rod going.
      Let me know if you need my help.

  74. george
    george04-24-2016

    Hi, I am a hi speed jigeer willing to try the slow pitch version. My problem and question is in the fact that when I am fishing in depth between 80-120 meters I do that from a 33 feet sport fishing boat , without an anchor so I am drifting a lot . What will be a good combination of lines and jigw to use so I stay on target and vertical as long as possible with thiw technique?

    • Totos
      Totos04-25-2016

      Hi George.
      As you know well, staying vertical is the key factor for success in slow pitch jigging.
      Basic suggestions would be, use light line and a heavy jig. Use sea-anchor or have someone control the drift at the wheel. Explore shallow waters.

      Here’s an articles on that.
      http://www.anglers-secrets.com/tips-for-fishing-on-a-free-drifting-boat-2/

      If you have more specific questions, don’t hesitate to contact me through Contact Form.

      • George
        George04-26-2016

        Thank you Totos, I guess controlling the drift with the engines is the best otion on my case

        • Gabriel Batistuta
          Gabriel Batistuta04-28-2016

          Hi Toros
          I’m going to buy a reel next some day.Please give me advise between 2015 Daiwa Ryoga Bay Jigging C2025PE SHL and 2015 Daiwa Saltiga 10HL. Which is the better one?
          I’m fishing at depth 40-70m, jigs weight 80-150gr.
          Thank you so much.

  75. Gabriel Batistuta
    Gabriel Batistuta04-28-2016

    Hi Toro,
    Please give me advise between 2014 Daiwa Ryoga Bay Jigging C2025PE HSL and 2015 Daiwa Saltiga 10HL.
    I am fishing in depth between 40-70 meters, jigs weight: 80g – 150g
    Thank you!

    • Totos
      Totos04-30-2016

      Between these 2 reels, I think Saltiga 10HL should be better. If you can get, Saltiga 15HL-SJ is even better.

  76. sugeng
    sugeng05-19-2016

    hai totos,

    is Accurate FX-500XN suitable for slow jigging, and what’s your opinion for this reel for using in slow jigging.

    Thanks

    • Totos
      Totos05-26-2016

      Hi Sugeng.
      Accurate reels are not available in Japan and I don’t know them.
      But it looks the specs are sufficient for slow pitch jigging.

  77. Alice Goh
    Alice Goh05-28-2016

    Hi TOTOS,

    I’m from Singapore and I just got the Slow Jerker 603-4. I’m wondering if my Avet MJX Raptor can use as jigging reel. It’s a 2 speed with the high speed at 104cm per crank, gear ratio 6.3:1. Was thinking of using 150 to 250 jig on this setup. Should I still be using PE2 line or should I use PE3 or PE4?

    Cheers
    Justin

    • Totos
      Totos06-01-2016

      Hi Alice.
      Even though I don’t know the reel since it’s not available in Japan, the spec looks sufficient.
      The line selection is pretty critical. It’s the balance scale with contact rate on one end and catch rate on the other end. I recommend to weigh on contact rate first with PE2.0 so that you will have a joy in exploring this game. There a lot of articles about line in the website. Please check them out.
      Good luck!

  78. Alice Goh
    Alice Goh05-28-2016

    Also TOTOS,

    Another reel that I think of using is my Shimano Calcutta Conquest 401. I know the spec is all at the minimum but just wonder if I just change to a power handle can I use it as a jigging reel?

    Justin

    • Totos
      Totos06-01-2016

      Among Shimano small overhead reels, Ocea Conquest 300HG is sufficient for the game.

  79. Garjito
    Garjito05-29-2016

    Dear sensei Toto,

    I just have posiedon 603-1.5 i need some suggestion on the reel that match this rod.
    I have ryoga 2025 SH, zillion pe special 7,9 gelar ratio and 89 cm per retreive but this is bait casting model. I used this reel for micro jigging no problem
    Im think to buy ocea conquest 300 Hg/200 Hg or is zillion will be enough ?

    I will be fishing in 30-50 M water, free drifting using speed boat

    Please give me your valueable opinion Sensei

    • Totos
      Totos06-01-2016

      Bass fishing reels will lack of gear power and cranking power. Ocea Conquest 300HG at least. Ocea Jigger is preferable.

  80. Will Latimer
    Will Latimer06-15-2016

    Hi,
    Can you recommend a cheaper reel by any chance (such as a fin-or, okuma etc?) I have a max budget of 220 USD.
    Also what do you think about the rod Gomoku adajo PE 2?
    Thanks

    • Totos
      Totos06-25-2016

      Hi Will.
      Your cheapest possibility is the one you can get locally. And I wouldn’t know them because they are not available in Japan. The least requirement for a slow pitch reel is as follows.
      “Basically you need an overhead reel that retrieves about 75cm per crank or more at the depth where you are fishing. Say, you have the reel with 85cm max retrieve per crank. That is the speed when The line is fully loaded. When you let out 100m of line, the speed may be down to 75cm per crank.”

      Gomoku is not a slow pitch rod. But slow pitch jigging is about maximizing the jigging tactics. You can still enjoy jigging with non-maximum tackle.
      Good luck.

  81. Will Latimer
    Will Latimer06-16-2016

    Also, I forgot to add, If my budget is only around 220 USD, would it be better to just get a quality spinning reel such as the shimano stradic 4000 fk?
    Thanks

    • Totos
      Totos06-25-2016

      No. I would stay with an overhead reel.

  82. Yannis
    Yannis08-01-2016

    Hi Totos
    I started Slow jigging after seeing your Youtube Video 4-5 years ago I now feel like I know what I’m doing and I have Improved my techniques and methods I have caught fish with slow jigging all over the world now (even in strange places I caught a pike while ice fishing in Finland with my slow jigging out fit) Thank you very much for the detailed information and instructions it has given me many happy moments. the main reason I’m writing is I got a OJ2000PG recently and it only comes with Japanese operating instructions Do you know where I can find an English version ?

    • Totos
      Totos08-09-2016

      Hi Yannis.
      I’m very happy that my website has helped you enjoy slow pitch jigging.
      No, unfortunately, there’s no english manual. Maybe you can search for the manual for Trinidad 16 at Shimano USA.
      Let me know if you have specific questions.

  83. Amro
    Amro08-10-2016

    is shimano Trinidad 16 as the same as ocea jigger 2000HR?

    • Totos
      Totos08-10-2016

      Yes, it’s identical. It’s probably made in different places, though.

  84. Yannis
    Yannis08-10-2016

    Hi Totos I ended up using a web-based PDF translator to translate the manual
    Also the vendor I bought it from made a little power point so all is well now
    thanks

  85. Nizam Lyz
    Nizam Lyz08-14-2016

    ocea jigger 1501hg vs saltiga 15hl-sj which one is better?..

    • Totos
      Totos08-15-2016

      Without a doubt, ocea jigger. It’s more powerful, fast, and smooth. Lever drag may be the only thing it’s missing.

  86. Ida Bagus Dwijayana Manuaba
    Ida Bagus Dwijayana Manuaba09-01-2016

    Hallo, Mr. Toto..

    Please, Advise Me. I am New and I want to try Slow Jigging in my country. I Have Reel Ocea Jigger 4000p can I match with MTGC-686SF Palm Witch Rod.

    This is the specifically designed for slow jigging in 300m deep with the max 500g jigs. The rod with the powerful tip and slow tapered butt makes it possible to pioneer of the deep zone where nobody ever fish.
    6ft.8inc. 1pc. Power:6 200-250g(FallMax 500g) Lures PE2.0-4.0# Rod Wt.164g.

    Because, in My Place the deep of the Ocean 150-200M+/- to find a good and big fish. Because, of the Strong current of the sea. we must use 400-600G Jig..

    Thank You for your kind, Reply.

    • Totos
      Totos09-18-2016

      Your tackle setting is not mistaken. But for slow pitch jigging in the deep waters, staying vertical is much more important than tackle setting. If you can only free-drift, you just need to pray for a calm water with no wind.

  87. ztsc
    ztsc09-10-2016

    hello there 🙂 can u comment on daiwa basara 200HL and Daiwa Vadel Bay Jigging? for shallow jigging.mostly 80g-130g jigs.i havent found any review about this reels.

    and another thing, are you familiar with Wiki Jigging 900H (by Jigging Master) and its variants?
    -Salt Studio Kaigun 1500N
    -Gmax Ryujin
    -Karasu Micro Jigging 1000H
    -Eupro EG80

    these variants can be easily found in southeast asia shops prior to slow fall jigging craze. most of them look very similar in terms of lever, body etc. just aesthetically different. and sports 6-ish gear ratio. are they any good?

    thanks and have a great day

    • Totos
      Totos09-18-2016

      The minimum requirements for slow pitch reels are described at the top of this page. You can see the specs and see if they meet the requirements.
      Many makers don’t say “maximum retrieve length per crank”. You can calculate it if you have the spool diameter and the gear ratio.

  88. Leonardo Ivan Setiadi
    Leonardo Ivan Setiadi09-23-2016

    Hello, nice website you got here :), can you comment on Poseidon 603-5 with ABU Garcia LJ-4 in 60-120m depth mostly on 100-180g jigs ?

    Cheers.

    • Totos
      Totos10-23-2016

      Hi Leonardo.
      I would use heavier jigs. With slow pitch jigging, we usually use the jig weight of 1.5 times to 2 times heavier than in conventional jigging.
      The reason is that, #1, slow pitch jigs are slower to fall and that’s why it’s attractive in falls. Still, you want to stay as vertical as you can, and you need more weight for that. #2, slow pitch rod needs some jig weight to bend deep and spring back. If the jig is lighter, the rod doesn’t bend much, which makes less spring back actions, and makes your overall actions very fast pace.

      In conventional jigging, it doesn’t really matter if you are vertical or not. Because all you do is up-up-up lifting, which means you are constantly taking out line slack in the water. So the jig can be light. If you use the same weight with slow pitch jigs, you will get more line slack. Plus your slow pitch application is slower and with more falls (no tension on the line and the water can carry your jig as away as it wants.). You will never be vertical.

      Your 603-5 is strong enough to work with 300g or more. (You need to be vertical, though)

  89. Kel Vin
    Kel Vin09-26-2016

    Hi Totos

    Nice write up.Just want to check 2000NR PG is suitable for shallower water like 40m to 60m depth and whereas HG is for deeper water as per what it was stated or it does not really makes a difference? Because I have gotten a 2000NR PG and the max depth I usually go is about 50m to 60m.

    Look forward to your reply

    Cheers

    • Totos
      Totos10-23-2016

      Hi Kel.
      If you already have OJ2000NR-PG, don’t worry about it. It’s got enough speed for 50m – 60m depth.
      Good luck.

  90. chris
    chris10-11-2016

    hello totos,
    Thank u for your dedication and passion for slow pitch jigging and for your great website, I am now keen on re trying slow pitch. I say re try because I tried slow pitch with a spinning reel and a shimano trevala rod. I use seafloor control jigs, I do catch fish, but I end up doing more of a slow “fast ” jigging style, if u see what I mean. I mainly start to jig in depths of 40m and drift with sea anchor up to 120-150m depth, switching jig weights along the way.

    I now realise that my equipment is not suitable for slow pitch as my rod isn’t up to specs. I will be getting a palms metal witch soon, and I plan to pair it with a trinidad 20A. The specs of this reel seem up to standards of slow pitch, the only worry I have is that I never used an overhead reel for jigging before, and I am worried about having to manually lay the line on the spool while jigging/retreiving? I wanted the 16NA model,(narrow spool) but my local shimano dealer only has the 20a. (my only experiences with overhead reels are level wind reels for trolling)

    Do u think the line lay will be an issue for someone like me who is only used to spinning and level wind reels? I don’t want to spend so much money on a slow pitch setup to be frustrated afterwards because of this. Thanks for your opinion and best regards

    • Totos
      Totos10-24-2016

      Hi Chris.
      Thank you very much for your compliments.

      Don’t worry much about leveling the line load.
      It can be an issue sometimes. We want max load because we want max speed out of the reel. So when we retrieve to unleveled load, the line load touches the reel body and cause frictions. Not good.

      But all we need to do is to, as we pull back up the jig, guide the line with our thumb or a finger To level the load. Or you can tilt the reel to one side and to the other. When you fight the fish, don’t worry about it. Even with a big fish, you should be able to afford to do the line management for the last 50m to the surface at least. And 50m is enough usually to level the load. For example, you hit a big fish at 100m. You pull up 20m (never mind the line management), and the fish pulls out 20m. You will repeat this for so many times. But the fish can’t go flat out constantly for so long (unless it’s a tuna). Eventually, for most part of 100m travel, you can pull up constantly, just heavy lift with occasional resistant runs. You can do line management in the constant lift, but not so tidy. The line has tension and you don’t want to cause friction to the line. Just the least amount of line management so that the line load doesn’t touch the reel body.

      Good luck.

  91. Jamie
    Jamie10-24-2016

    Hi mate ive just bought a beat propergate bp606-3 , 160gm jig max,
    Looking to buy a new reel for it, i fish from 25- 70 meters deep, do all the ocea jiggers have the automatic spool brake when the handle turns?
    Any reel recommendations?
    Are the jdm models different to the ones in Australia ect ? Cheers

    • Totos
      Totos10-29-2016

      Hi Jamie.
      Sounds like you need Ocea Jigger 1500HG. But I don’t know what you mean by “automatic spool brake when the handle turns”.
      When you free the spool to drop the jig, and when you just turn the handle, the gears click back in and you can retrieve with right away no other actions. If that’s what you mean.
      And Ocea Jigger has mechanical break. It controls how “free” the spool is when you free the spool. When the spool is completely free, you may get backlash. And jigs fall faster with adequate tension. Ocea Jigger has a dial to control that tension. The star drag is for when the gears are engaged. The mechanical break is for when the gears are not engaged. If that’s what you mean.

      Shimano Japan makes Ocea Jigger. Shimano USA makes Trinidad. They are the same model, the same design. They are different manufacturers. But no one else makes this model. If you see Ocea Jigger, that’s from Japan.

  92. Ali
    Ali10-25-2016

    Hi Totos,

    Thanks for the information your provide , I learnt a lot from your replies to all the queries

    All this while I am into fast vertical jigging. As Slow Pitch jigging is getting “hotter” each days my hand is itching to start on it.

    Most of time I fish around 30m ~ 60m water with strong current. I am planing to invest in my Slow Pitch set up as per your recommendation.

    Overhead Reel: OJ 1500hg
    Rod : Poseidon PSLJ 6036- 3 or 4

    I don’t fancy using jigs heavier than 200gms, is the above set up fine ?

    Appreciate you kind reply and advise.

    Thanks & have a nice day.

    Ali

    • Totos
      Totos10-29-2016

      Hi Ali.
      Welcome to slow pitch jigging!
      Do you use sea-anchor? Do you have a captain to control the drift? It’s really the wind to push you apart from the vertical alignment with your jig. If you don’t have certain verticality, the rod doesn’t make any difference. So first you should determine other things that affect verticality.
      Boating. If you have your own boat, I recommend sea-anchor. If not, just choose the windless day.
      What line? I recommend PE1.5 to start with.
      What jig weight? Probably 130g to 200g.

      If you were vertical as we are on spankered boat, you would use 100g to 150g with 603-2 in that depth. But in your case, when the conditions are friendly, 603-3 will do fine with those jig weights. 603-3 should be tough when you are far away from vertical. But I would recommend, instead of getting 603-4, to get 603-3 and enjoy in the friendly conditions, and to drop and switch to high speed jigging when the conditions are tough.

      Good luck.

  93. Eason Mun
    Eason Mun10-29-2016

    Hi, if i wanna do slow jigging in 30 – 150 m of water depth, is saltiga 10h enough for this purposes ? the line main line will be pe 1.5 or pe 2. Rod will be pe 2

    • Totos
      Totos11-15-2016

      Hi Eason.
      Saltiga 10H has 100cm per crank speed at 6.4 gear ratio. It’s basically a good spec for slow pitch jigging. But I would recommend to explore in the shallow under 80m. Maybe up to 230g jig. I don’t know how vertical you can stay, but I assume that it would be hard with heavier jigs and at deeper water.

      If you are asking this question before you try, I encourage you to try.

      If you are asking after you tried and it’s not working, you need to look at the whole picture to find solutions. It should not be just the reel.

      Good luck!

  94. Faiz
    Faiz11-24-2016

    Hi Totos,

    Im planning on buying either OJ 1501NRHG and the Daiwa Saltiga 15H got a bit of problem on choosing..which do you would reccomend the most on buying?

    Im Jigging only on 50-100m depth in Malaysia, which the best reel for me to choose between the two.

    Thank you and regards.

    Faiz.

    • Totos
      Totos12-13-2016

      Hi Faiz.
      Definitely OJ1501HG. The large drive gear with precision gear is always dependable and torqueful for slow pitch jigging.
      On the other hand, Daiwa Magshiled has some bad reputations.

  95. Apollo King
    Apollo King11-30-2016

    Hi Totos.

    If i want to do slow jigging at shallow water 40-70m, is Banax Camion 305TD suitable?
    i plan to pair it with Zen Zagan slow pitch rod, Pe1-3. please do advice

    • Totos
      Totos12-13-2016

      HI Apollo.
      I don’t know this reel. The desired specs for slow pitch reel is described at the beginning of this article. If you don’t know the max retrieve length per crank of this reel, check it with the maker or the seller. Not me. The handle length is 75cm? It’s a bit hard to make actions, but manageable.

  96. Jerome
    Jerome12-07-2016

    Hi what do you think about the Shimano Torium 16 for light slow jigging?

    • Totos
      Totos01-11-2017

      it’s a cheaper production of Ocea Jigger. I’m not familiar with it as it’s made by Shimano USA and not available in Japan. I don’t know what is less or worse, but the specs are sufficient for slow pitch jigging.

  97. marinos r
    marinos r01-06-2017

    hello toto what about for abu garcia revo SaltyStage lj4?
    Gear Ratio:7.6:1
    Ball/Roller Bearing:6/1
    Weight:378 g
    MAX Drag:10 kg
    Retrieve:107 cm

    • Totos
      Totos01-11-2017

      Hi Marinos.
      The specs is fine. I assume it doesn’t have much torque, but you just need to work more, rather than paying more for a better reel.

  98. syukri
    syukri01-23-2017

    Hi totos. I know SOM reel is from Japan. Is it fully Japan made? i felt doubtful because i saw the Japan global rakuten website, this SOM product was produce in Korea.

    • Totos
      Totos01-23-2017

      Hi Shukri.
      Yes it’s true. But all the essential parts that require craftsmanship like drag and drive gear are made in Japan. The reel body along with some solid parts and assembling is done in Korea. And every time the factory finishes a bunch, the whole SOM team of engineers go to Korea for a couple of weeks to conduct the final check up on all the products. They won’t let any defaults pass through to the market. That’s what I heard from a SOM staff.

      • syukri
        syukri01-25-2017

        oh i see. so, what is you recommendation for the best jigging reel?

        • Totos
          Totos02-02-2017

          Hi Syukri.
          I don’t think there’s no BEST reels. It depends on your conditions. If you want to discuss your case, please send me a message through contact form.

          Like I said that Ocea Jigger is the most popular reel for slow pitch jiggers in Japan, I can recommend this reel to anyone for various reasons.

  99. Tasmann
    Tasmann01-26-2017

    Hi Totos,

    I always enjoy reading through your posts and watching your videos, picking up pointers to improve my slow jigging game. I am currently using a Daiwa Saltiga 15-SJ and have been loving it. I love how the reel comes with everything you need for slow jigging, especially the egg knob. As i would be exploring deeper waters, I’m planning to buy a reel with more line capacity. Currently considering between Shimano’s Ocea Jigger 2000NRHG and Daiwa’s Saltiga 35N-SJ (does the N refer to Narrow Spool?), but i just cant decide which to get. I note that both a great reels, but I am unable to determine a deciding factor for either reels.
    Would you mind pointing out what makes an OJ stand out more than a Saltiga, or vice versa? Also, any news in Japan if Shimano is coming out with a new Ocea Jigger model considering the current is already 5-6 years old?

    • Totos
      Totos02-02-2017

      Hi Tasmann.
      Ocea Jigger is fool proof. I feel Saltiga doesn’t have as much power (torque) as OJ. And there is a lot of complaints on the magshield of Saltiga.
      I don’t think Ocea Jigger is remodeling because they just added 3000HG to the lineup. But they may release a variation model or something. Let’s wait to see at Osaka Fishing Show.

  100. Iskender
    Iskender04-17-2017

    Hi Totos
    This is Iskender(Alex) from Turkey.
    I deeply appreciate your help and sharing of information with the ones who are eager to get into slow jigging.
    I read as much posts as possible but I might have missed your opinion about Shimano Ocea 2001NR-HG. I will will be fishing 50-100m. depth and use Shimano Game Type Slow Jigging B684 rod(action:300gr) with that reel. Is it something you may recommend for that purpose?

    Kind Regards

    • Totos
      Totos05-03-2017

      Yes, definitely. OJ2001 will do the job. It’s such a solid reel you can depend on.

      • iskender
        iskender05-03-2017

        Thanks alot for the help.

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