Slow Pitch Jigging
Nitsuke - Teri Boil =
One of the most popular fish cooking in Japan.
Oliverow TwentyThree Wow!! I will try on parrot fish!: )
04/08/2015 at 01:281
Lim Joo Ghee Su Xuan must try.
That is when I get a ang kuey
04/08/2015 at 07:321
Freaking Awesome Angler I ve Ever Seen
Japanese Angler's Secrets added 4 new photos.
Calling my friends over to feast on my catch! Good time, good friends, good eating. Life is good!
Joel Leong Hi Totos, Is the recipe for the third dish available? I think its the steam fish :)
02/08/2015 at 00:541
Elmi Abu Bakar third dish make i hungry..
02/08/2015 at 01:121
Ben Wackett Need more notice next time!! Still waiting for an visit to Australia...
02/08/2015 at 07:131
Japanese Angler's Secrets Did you guys notice? I bought a camera!
02/08/2015 at 08:421
Japanese Angler's Secrets The third dish is a very popular fish cooking in Japan. Nitsuke. I would call it Teri-boil in English. It's half boil and half steam cooking to make the fish absorb the teri sauce which it's cooked in. Will post the recipe.
02/08/2015 at 08:512
Outfished 60 other anglers ON A PARTY BOAT!!
Slow pitch jigging in USA.
This is how I keep my catch in my cooler box. I put in a metal shelf to keep the fish from drowning in melted water.
Some people put ocean water in ice. This is also fine. Being in the iced salt water wouldn't do much damage to the fish.
But I figured I preferred this system. I check the thermo and it keeps 5C degrees right above the ice, and 10C in the upper layer right below the rid of the cooler box. This is the sufficient temperature range to keep the fish fresh. The study shows that too much cooling, like 0C to 5C, does damage the cells and let out drips. Especially after Ike-Jime, it should not be cooled too much.
Having a metal shelf gets a bit heavy, but it's sure lighter than with salt water in it.
And the ice lasts longer this way. I usually keeps the fish in the cooler box for 3 to 5 days (after cleaning of course) because I don't have much space in my fridge. The ice lasts long enough for that in my cooler box. If I put in the salt water, it will be cool enough just for 2 days.
Jason Bauman Blair Bakke, something to think about for the jet ski cooler (since we're on the subject of cooler modifications).
31/07/2015 at 09:43
Anyone wants Totos' Hook Ball? JPY1000 a piece!
No, no, no, I'm not serious. I'm not trying to sell it.
One of my readers wanted me to make one for him. This ball is very easy to grip with your palm while you are working your thumb and finger to make PR Knot for double hooks. Hope you can pick up something similar at your local hardware store.
Here's how you use it. Check out the video on PR Knot to assemble the double hook.
Why does heavier line attract less contacts?
Mohamed Eltaweel That is an excellent article thanks a lot
26/07/2015 at 04:30
Queen snapper with Seafloor Control Gawky 290g silver glow. Pulley ridge Florida
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20/07/2015 at 17:59
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Justin Meli They look great !
20/07/2015 at 13:35
Bob Major Matt Kenneth Major
20/07/2015 at 15:02
Jason Bauman Got a few of them! Now if the weather would cooperate.
20/07/2015 at 16:00
Updated a previous article.
One of the keys to the success is to know what action tone you have at the moment. And to choose the type of jig that works best in that action tone.
Bob Major Matt Kenneth Major
20/07/2015 at 14:33
Jim Gsd Davis Very interesting thanks
21/07/2015 at 08:481
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=== QUESTION ===
If you were to have three rods to cover all fishing situations which three would you choose?
=== MY REPLY ===
What would be the 3 rod selection for the most versatility?
A very interesting question!
It really depends on your field and the tactics you want to play.
Let me tell you what I have experienced.
I fish at 100m mainly. Range is from 70m to 200m.
I started with 603-3 and 603-6. It seemed to me that they cover all the conditions and slow pitch tactics around 100m. Then I got High Pitch Jerker 600. It was a great addition for tougher conditions (more currents or more depth). Slow pitch with 300g or heavier jigs. It also applies high pitch jigging with 260g or lighter jigs, mostly under 120m.
Note that I am on boats with spanker sails with which the captain controls the drift to keep me vertical. If you are not on this kind of boat, it's harder to stay vertical and the water resistance is bigger, and 600 will help you a lot with heavy jigs around 100m.
Then I started exploring 150m to 200m, and I felt the need for a high pitch rod and purchased High Pitch Jerker 504. High pithing 300g and 350g jigs around that depths.
Next I added 603-4. Right away I realized that I had missed this rod all this time. It really expanded my slow pitch tactics. It feels right the most when I want to slow pitch around 100m with 180g to 240g jigs. Now my general rod usage for slow pitch is like this, 40% 603-4, 30% 603-6, 15% 603-3, 15% 600.
Then I installed long fall techniques into my recipe with Beat Longfall Expert 702-2. I wanted a longfall rod to target demersal fish in shallow waters, around 70m.
Please note that the depths I mentioned above are just the reference points of water resistance. Water resistance varies by the currents, the depth, your line, and how vertical you are. You need to build up your senses and judgement to know, when you drop the jig in the water, what action tones (soft / medium / strong) your rod has to that jig weight under that circumstances.
So, it really depends on your field conditions and the tactics you want to play.
Tell me your main depth range and how your boat is operated while fishing, and I'll make my suggestions.
Interesting...A step-by step video on assembling double assist hooks for slow pitch jigging by the master himself, Totos from Japanese Angler's Secrets
Wayne Stocker Samsonfish on PE 1.0 that is pretty good going. Last Samsonfish I landed was 130cm to the fork on my 24 kg outfit and that was a struggle. So well done on the PE 1.0 outfit.
10/07/2015 at 08:571
Daniel Coughlan Great work Tien!
10/07/2015 at 09:091
======= QUESTION ========
Thank you for your excellent page. So much great information!
I have a question, I put a brand new spool of pe2 shimano ocea braid on my 1500hg limited ocea jigger.
I was slow pitching in 100m of water and I snagged the bottom. I couldn't shake the jig free so I put my thumb on the spool to break it off. The braid broke at the reel!!! I lost 100m of brand new braid. I was only using 40lb leader at the time. I thought it would have broken at the leader.
Do you know how I could stop this from happening again?
Thank you for your help!
======= MY REPLY ========
Ouch! I know how much that hurts.
Any PE line can break easily when crossed and tensioned. I would never try to break the snag with the reel. There's a good chance to damage your line on the spool anyway.
See the picture. You can make it easily with a piece of wood or PVC pipe, wrapped by a heat shrinkable rubber. Wind up PE line on this, make sure it is not overlapping, and then pull to break the snag.
You can use this tool to finish your knot with traction.
In case you haven't checked it out, here's Sato Sensei for the snag lessons.
Hristofor Pamyatnih Also using of gloves is OK if you fishing with thin line such as PE 1.5 I'm using buff fishing gloves and it is much easier than using of dedicated line breaker if you fish from kayak like me. Another option is to make 2 in 1 tool - soft rubber on the handle of your favorite gaff makes good job.
01/07/2015 at 22:312
Geslère Coutaye-caroumbin Moove your boat . "remonter le courant"
14/07/2015 at 17:40
first catch on the first outing with sfc arc 230 grams was not a fish :) from malta .
Japanese Angler's Secrets Hahaha! It happens! Don't give up!
28/06/2015 at 22:011
Why not pump the rod?
Let's take a close look at the pumping style and point-down style.
Lew Choolin Lim Chee Kian Paul Puah Yap Yan Sin Tan Koon Yoong Daniel Chia Daniel Chan
28/06/2015 at 21:372
Syazwan Mustafa Hassanuddin Ismail Anuar Mohamad Mat Hassan Mat Esa
29/06/2015 at 00:501
Azee Ozee Good info bro...
Para pam pam Pump ........
29/06/2015 at 01:28
Daniel Liaropoulos Probably because fish in japan are weighed in grams not kilos
29/06/2015 at 05:091
Lew Choolin Khor Wh
29/06/2015 at 09:55
Mahaputra Wijaya My only concern is the potential back pain in the future... Saw some videos fighting only using back muscles... 😁
29/06/2015 at 11:04
Dave Lim Point down style (or I call it tug-of-war style) is not as easy as rod pumping style when handling a sizeable fish, but it can be done. A humble vid to share: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9mQA15ssn-s&feature=youtu.be
No controversies to Mr Totos' modus operandi - Just do the style you believe in most. ✌
29/06/2015 at 15:174
LengTeck Tan Follow Razali and Rashid.....
29/06/2015 at 16:05
Yudi Kanu I dislike it.not so enjoy. I prefer pump the rod..
29/06/2015 at 19:254
Japanese Angler's Secrets And that is totally fine. Just be careful when you fish with a slow pitch rod.
30/06/2015 at 14:201
Fírë Tígër dear JAS,
firstly, i would like to thank you for your ever insightful explanations on slow pitch jigging. I have been following this blog for the longest time. all this while i’ve been a follower of your techniques and advises. Very good info as always with regards to equipment selection, and very good reasoning with good details. Before I begin, credits are to be given to you for opening up to the English-speaking world to the entire slow pitch movement that you all have going around there in Japan.
I’ll begin here. most of the time, i’d agree with your articles, but this time i strongly disagree with this statement:
"The slow pitch rod is finely tuned to dance your jig in vertical alignment. It is NOT made to fight with the fish. It can’t. You can’t take something unless you give up something. Don’t swallow a commercial which may say, “This slow pitch rod lets you control the jig in slightest details, but still has the power to lift up your dream fish…” No No No. Do not buy that rod. You should doubt if this manufacturer really knows what it takes to do slow pitch jigging."
i’m very surprised by that very judgemental statement. just because your choice of slow pitch rods cannot be used to pump fish, you make sweeping statements which i believe is very lopsided. i used to recommend this blog to my friends who wants to understand jigging with a bait caster in general, as you have put up very good arguments on the benefits of jigging with a bait caster. i was surprised by that very biased outlook and was taken aback.
what you are trying to say sounds like this: Benz developed the first modern automobile, and you should doubt other manufacturers because you’re not sure if they know what it takes to make a proper automobile.
you must realise that slow pitch jigging has evolved since its worldwide debut, and the ensuing 'local' modifications people have made to improve certain weaknesses of the technique. Sure, Japanese masters created the slow pitch jigging style, but then people around the globe picked it up and applied it to their local waters, and improvised on it to cater for certain scenarios.
before i go on, let me reassure you that i am not affiliated to any organisation related to the fishing industry, and views held here are just my own as an angler looking for a good battle on the water, good quality fishes to put on my table, for good sport with good company. to top that off, fishing with friends that own the Grade A,B & C rods you recommend allows us to make comparisons with the abundance of alternative gears we are surrounded with.
02/07/2015 at 00:5913
Fírë Tígër You'll be surprised at some 'lower than grade C’ rods that can jig well yet able to pump fish. nowadays, even lesser known non-japanese brand rods are able to properly handle slow jigs yet are able to pump fish. And these rods need not be the overpriced rods you hail above all others in your grading system. All those you put as grade A rods are weak rods, sorry to say. many are disappointed after spending top dollar on a rod and find it so limpy, no matter how good it dances a jig. A rod is more than that. it should be more than that. It should be able to pump fish as well. I strongly disagree with the theory of a proper jig rod shouldn't be able to pump fish. the designers ought to go back to the drawing board. saying a proper slow pitch rod is only for dancing a jig and should not be used for pumping is like saying a proper reel should only be used for casting and not reeling in fish. yup, it does sound funny doesn’t it?
And your reasoning with diagrams A & B to justify the inability of the rod to pump fish is flawed. diagram A with ‘arms extended’ is not a proper depiction, just a feasible way to put forth your theory so it will look passable.
imagine a crane lifting weights. you will get what i’m trying to say. you won’t find a crane with its masts pointed downwards to move objects. the rod acts as an intermediary between the angler and the fish. it is the equipment that provides leverage. it is the equipment that maintains, increases and reduces the tension. it absorbs the run, it is the tool that controls the fish, that changes its direction of run when you work it. it should be able to exert force and have sufficient lifting power. proper usage of the rod, pumping it up to 45 degrees, using your entire upper torso, locked arms, proper back positioning, breaking the fight with leg work and stance, properly counterbalancing the drag settings and cannot be justified by pointing the reel downwards and putting yourself in an awkward position when the fish is reaching for its hideout. I agree that using the reel's drag to break its run is a good countermeasure however the positioning of the body on railless boats, and choppy seas, is nothing short of inviting trouble. hence, i disagree with your theory that a well made jig rod should not be used to pump fish.
where we fish over here, when jigging for demersal fish like groupers and snappers off the bottom of the seabed, in 90-100m, you risk chances of busting out your line, rod, and wrecking the entire system if your gears are not up to it. the first 5 seconds will determine if you win or lose the battle. your Grade A rods, for example, the Poseidons, and the Beats, no matter how good it jigs, it has no power. it flexes all the way to the reel seat, and when a 6kg-over10kg grouper decides to rush into its hiding hole, a strong drag and proper rod work is required to muscle it and change its direction of its dash. sadly, those rods aren’t cut for it. PE2.5 is pushing the limits by being too thin. and the measly drag rating of the rod will not be able to muscle it out without snapping it. so what if it dances a jig well but it can’t land a charging fish. that in my books, is a big FAIL. lose a jig, four hooks, 2 solid rings, 2 split rings and God forbid, the leader or some of your main line. many battles have been lost on these rods due to the weak power.
The Grade B rods, for example, Yamaga Blanks Galahad Slow 62/4, fares much better with better lifting power yet does not suffer from lack of jig action. in fact, i have known some anglers who have traded in their Poseidons for Galahads just because of this point. it doesn’t jig badly at all, in fact, i prefer the way it works the jig better than any of the grade A rods in your list, so it doesn’t mean that they are not pioneers of slow pitch jigging technique then they cannot produce a good rod.
for the past year, a group of friends and i fished some rods not in your list, such as the Abu Garcia KRX250 and we have landed many fishes with slow jigs ranging from 150-300g jigs in 100m waters. not only are they capable of slow pitch jigging, they are able to pump fish ranging from 4kg-15kgs (snappers, groupers, sharks, cobias, mangrove jacks, GTs) without breaking it, to disprove your theory that a well made slow pitch rod is not made to pump fish. they were well used, and never abused. they were able to work the slow jigs properly (if not as good as your Grade A rods) yet are able to land fish by pumping. the rod has ample reserve lifting power. also recently,i have been able to test some prototype slow pitch rods a friend of mine has been working on. not only does it handle 150-300g jigs quite effortlessly, yet it has ample power to pump, fight and lift confidently.
maybe the types of target fish we catch over here are different. maybe they fight harder. maybe they fight dirtier. maybe it’s demersals vs pelagics.
if the rod cannot pump a fish, then i believe it is a failed product. like a reel that can only cast, but unable to reel in line. you cannot remove one function of an equipment from the things its supposed to do. that is just poor justification for a failed product.
key word here is balance. balance between dancing a jig properly, and the ability to fight a fish.
i apologise in advance if anyone takes offence for being too straight, and please do take this with a pinch of salt or just ignore this as i’m just an anchovy in a sea of fishes. i am no one. i am nothing but an angler who buys stuff with my own hard earned money. as i’ve mentioned, i usually subscribe to the theories and arguments you put forward, except for this one.
maybe you can take a look here and decide if a slow pitch rod should be able to pump or not:
thanks and tight lines everyone. pumping, or not.
02/07/2015 at 01:0016
Calvin Tan Reel Spa no offense to anybody, i think both style works perfectly as long as you know where are your limits
02/07/2015 at 01:472
Calvin Tan Reel Spa just a humble video. pls pardon for the rod slipping part
02/07/2015 at 01:481
Japanese Angler's Secrets Hi FT FireTiger. It was very interesting to read your comment. Thank you very much for sharing.
02/07/2015 at 08:015
Japanese Angler's Secrets Maybe I was being too strict with the original concept of slow pitch jigging as Sato Sensei describes it when I wrote the article. Slow pitch jigging can be enjoyed in different levels and in different variations. Every method has advantages and disadvantages. Understanding and making your choices is a big part of fun for some people like me. And after all, we fish for fun!
02/07/2015 at 08:0914
Lew Choolin very fruitful debates and sharing, majority of anglers will just like this. Cheers!!
02/07/2015 at 09:361
Ginson Tjs Its always nice to read up debates with integrity... kudos guys. With valid arguments comes improvement
02/07/2015 at 10:121
Calvin Tan Reel Spa yes Daniel Wong, u r right.
glad everyone is cool here
02/07/2015 at 11:212
Jeff Thng Our group is learning and still follow strictly to what Sato Sensei has taught. Afterall country of origin for SPJ is from Japan and we pick SPJ up from the japanese too. In my opinion EG and Beat are great rods. My group landed fishes ranging from few hundred grams to 80kg with these rods. We enjoyed the game and do it the way Sato Sensei has created it.
Some enjoy pumping the rod some might not. We just want to enjoy the game.
04/07/2015 at 12:478